NewAngler

This thread is ridiculous. That being said, here are my thoughts. For those of you that think violence won't stem from trying to get some herb. Completely wrong. I got "held up" at age 16 for some herb. Maybe he was going to flip the profit for the drug of his choice, but I know that he got my herb, and I changed my underwear. I'm for a ten year decriminalization study to track the trends of users. If thats even possible, from there we can dicuss the legalization. No matter what the outcome of this our judicial system is still going to be a royal nightmare. Speedy trial? 1 Year wait for a possesion charge for a guy I know. C'mon. Its not going to change anything but free up some space in our jails. I think the average cost per day per inmate is $30 day. As a tax payer I'd rather give my money to house a child molester, rapist, murder etc. etc. than a dude pushing some herb. My friends brother spent 3 years in prison for dealing MARIJUANA. 1st offense. Don't say it cant happen, it does.

Well, problem solved.

Deal is done. Thanks Toledo.

.... all you have to do is paint some blank swimbaits for me. I'm going to have 8 bbz 1, 2 8" Sammy, and two big sebile magic swimmers. I don't need all of those, so we can work something. You can even paint them however you want. Hurry! I will just have them shipped to your house. They are being shipped to me. Or you on Monday. Thanks.

No chance they have a decent chance at taking it. I think they would be a Cinderella team at best, or a 1980 US Hockey team story at worst. I didn't like how they played in the friendly play two weeks ago. Who knows, maybe Donovan will GREAT and the defense stout. I hope so.

Carp.....?

Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success. Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right. "I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!" Nothing. Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot. Swimbait, please. Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else. NewAngler, I am familiar with you and your circle of friends, as I have kept up with many of your posts regarding fishing trips etc. And I can tell that each of you love to fish as much as the rest of us...But I am also aware that you are familiar with several other folks in your area that fish Rage Tail products and they are catching loads of fish and setting new PB's on a regular basis...hopefully this thread topic was not targeted to create controversy due to that groups good fortunes....lifes too short to intentionally initiate strife, enough of that comes our way by accident. If I am wrong about the controversy factor and I hope that I am, as that seems rediculous and immature...we can focus on becoming the best angler we can be regardless of the baits we choose. If this is your interest, my offer is still open to assist you... Because I am old and have fished extensively (my wife says excessively ;D) most of my life, I've had the opportunity to teach hundreds of young people like yourself, and many have become top notch tournament anglers as well as guides on a variety of lakes... Also, the offer for you to be involved with me at the National Wounded Warrior Event on the Potomac next Spring is still open to you and all your friends as well....We all have something valuable to learn from these folks, and something valuable to offer them as well We can discuss this further via PM's if you like, or we can continue on here Big O www.ragetail.com Thanks, Big O. You just might see me out there next year. In no way shape or form did I start this thread directed at any one individual, nor did I start it directed at a group of individuals. I didn't start this thread to start any controversy, but would be lying if I told you I didn't know it was going to happen. Like everything else in life, there are some people for certain thing, and there are people against certain things. I am not, by any means, against Rage Tail products. I don't tie them on my line and say, "Ooo, I hope this doesn't work so I can log on to my fishing forum and stir the pot. I bet I could get 5 pages!" I just have no sucess stories stemming from my use. Its kind of like (a great anology coming, take a seat) a couple trying to conceve a child. It may not work, but it SURE IS FUN trying. After recomendations I will pick up the craw and the fancy weight to boot. Hook that suminagun on a 4/0 EWG hook and pitch the little bugger at some laydowns this weekend. I truly hope a success story can be conceived from my months of planning. Again, Big-O, you've never done anything less than impressive on this thread or any other response I've read.

Yes. Specifically Section 2.4-1 yet I've had zippy success. Tried the Toad again Saturday night and people were missing fish on frogs left and right. "I'll prove myself wrong! I'll try my RageToad!" Nothing. Tied on my 8" swimbait and got 6 hits in a row in the same spot. Swimbait, please. Big- O- thanks for the words of inspiration. I may not count them out completely, but I will keep them in my bag for when I'm just catching too many fish and will try to gain confidence in something else.

I saw them at one of those 30 band shows once. Insane. Was never a fan, but i'll mosh all day long, and that was a good one. Respect.

Got mine wet this week a little. Very amateur appearance but the do swim surprisingly well. Take them out tomorrow night as well.

Did you have success with other lures/soft plastics in those locations at the same time? You didn't mention if you were having luck with something else at the same time. The fish may have not been where you were, when you were there. But, I also agree in that all lures are not for everyone. I hate lipless cranks. Never really have any luck with them at all! To each their own. Oh yea, my mistake. Ha, a huge part my discussion was left out. Yes, I was having luck with other topwaters, creatures, and worm style baits in the same day. Albeit, they weren't in the EXACT spot at the EXACT time

Frankster, Who is trying to start an arguement? Not me. Isn't a forum a place to discus their opinions, and give advice and feedback? Is my post an opinion of mine? Good, glad we're on the same page. And AS I STATED, I know they catch fish. I do. Just not for me. And Leo, that is a hog, bro, I just can't seem to find the fish with these little buggers. As far as throwing a company under the bus? I haven't. They obviously have a HUGE following, and their marketing and product placement is ridiculously flawless (IMO). This is also part of the hype I was talking about. I give an opinion, and its not one that you guys agree with, so somehow my opinion is incorrect. Which is cool, because thats your opinion. Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. I don't know about you guys, but I leave other people opininions (and butt holes) to them selves. And enough of the "send them to me"'s. IMO, they aren't worth the postage. I have a few buddies locally that might get Rage Tail tattoos that would love them.

If RT was the only thing I threw I'm sure I would eventually catch fish on them. I'm not too convinced that they will catch bigger fish than any baits I use on a consistant basis. As Kikstand stated, I don't see the bang for the buck. I have only experience the lack of durability through re-rigging, not from catching bass. IMO, there are more cost effective plastics out there. "Better value", if you will.

Blame the angler all you want. Hell, I do it all the time. I have used the Anaconda, Elliminator, Shad, Toad and Space monkey. My usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these; Shad- Top water, obviously. low light, over weeds, early am, late evening. On the Potomac River. A pretty good fishery. But what do I know? Anaconda- As I would any worm. Around lay downs, in between grass pockets. Eeliminator- I was most anxious to use this one, tried the topwater, couldnt get it to run true easily. Finally got it, nothing. Used it.. jiminy crickets, I used the baits where I felt like they would be a good fit, and off of some advice from other anglers. They don't work for me. Plain and simple. There has to be another person in the world that they don't work for. They're pricey, too.

I know I am going to take a beating from this, but I'm wondering if anyone else is struggling with this line of baits. Let me preface with saying that this is MY (hope you guys caught that) opinion on the baits, but I think they are horrbile. great concept, great marketing, great water displacement but I have gotten the big ole' skunk everytime I toss one. I feel I have given them a fair shot, and I think I might be donating them. My Dislikes; 1.) Price. $6 for 5 or 6 baits that aren't the easiest to make true. (shad, eeliminator) 2.) Castability. Great weight, but feel like I'm trying to heave a frisbee in a vertical manner. 3.) The Hype. oooo the hype. "thanks to my rage tail product I caught the LUNKER OF A LIFETIME!" Which could be true, but maybe I could have caught the same lunker with my horny toad, buzzbait or culprit curl tail. Who knows? I don't claim to be an elite angler, nor do I even claim to be an average angler. I have caught a few fish, and I have given them a fair shot. I know there is a pretty big RAGE following and Big-O is a great guy that offers great advise on his product and other products. I just PERSONALLY (hope you guys saw that one, too) hate the line, and am pretty sure I'm directing my rage to dumpster. Let me have it.

What's up bud. Abel seems like its would be good, and ive heard of fish coming from there. But all from the boats. There's a path that you can walk down for quite a ways, and I've put my fair share there and still have a skunk. Lake curtis has fish, and some shore spots from the rec park, not vdgif ramp. The rappahannock is a great place for smallies, explore that with some lighter tackle and hang on. Good luck and welcome. Stay a while and you'll gain more spots daily. I suggest using Google maps to look at spots, as there are 13 "lakes" in stafford alone. Locust Shade has a small pond in pwc, but a crap load of pressure and people fishing for dinner. BUT its stocked with trout from November til April, so I'm convinced big man is there somewhere.

Is that a bull shad? I will take. That should clear up some space. Browning makes some GOLIATH plastic bags. You get get a few of these: http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_104003____SearchResults and put them in this: http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_104004____SearchResults Albeit, it will be cheaper to just get the XPS, even at full price. Or even some smaller cheap plastic wallets to go inside of the satchel would work.

Is it the law that you have to wear 3-D glasses where you fish? Nice fish, dude.

wow. You'd have to pay me to go to their concert.

Your challenge has been accepted. But then you southern folk need to come up and fish the Potomac.

Wow. i look like one of passing by trains hit me. And I don't know how to hold a fish. I gotta gotta give Thai's method a whirl.

Chubs woulda veena better than some of the smallies we were pulling in. Largest smallie was 17, next largest was probably 10. Largest musky was 31", and the only one. We got nailed by rain on the first day. Campsite had no running water, bathroom, or showers. Dan lost a combo. I sat on my multi-tool, pliers up, and have a bruisedass.. I lost a magic swimmer, 3 cranks, my dignity and ability to talk ish to swva-ers. The scenery was absolutely beautiful, and the second days weather made the 6 hour drive worth it.

We got owned.

Dear Southwest by God Virginia, Your territory will be invaded by northern Yankees! Your waters will be outfished. Your small shops will run out of alcohol. Your women... well, we'll leave them alone, we like ours with ALL teeth. Pave way you southwestern bucks, NOVA's coming to town.

swimbaits.