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Let's just say I respect scientific verification enough to accept the efficiency it affords us. In other words I have vehicles with power steering because the verification that it works provides much more efficiency so I move forward with it. Same with the UV lightwave. I've caught plenty of fish with baits that absorb UV so I know it's possible. That doesn't mean I'm going to scoff at updated improvements when it comes to making my offering more visible.

This is my point exactly. That is why any color you want to use is fine if that suits your fancy. As you say, once they see it the color issue will fall through the cracks. This is why you can choose any color you want as long as it reflects UV light. Because of the fact that UV light is stronger and penetrates deeper bass will key on this color which we cannot see. In gin clear water a natural color bait may appear fairly visible to a bass. The portion of the color spectrum that we can see with the human eye gets filtered out rather quickly underwater. This is why folks use different approaches to make their bait "stand out". Many will use a black/blue, a chartreuse, and lots of folks use a bigger bulkier bait. Usually this is a choice made by the fisherman in an attempt to make their bait "contrast" with the surrounding conditions. They feel like their bait may not be very visible, and they are right, and they want to maximize the visibility so they upsize, or choose bold contrasting colors. A bass has learned to be on the alert for the presence of any UV reflection as it will show up under more different conditions than any of the other color spectrum . Your plastic worm looks red because it reflects the red color in the light spectrum which the human eye can see. The bass has learned that the UV color is the most visible and just because you can't see it , it is definitely not a reason to assume that it is unimportant.

There is also Bass Pro Shops. One in Olathe off of I-35 at 119th, and the other one in Independence off of I-70

OK Chris311, Thanks. I'll put the number in my directory right now. There is a small problem however. Sunday I was able to get my boat out of the garage and see my yard for the first time this year. Didn't last long. We got a mini blizzard goin on right now. It's a bona fide whiteout. I think they're calling for about 4" over here and everything is already blanketed again. At least I don't think it's gonna be another 9+ inches like the last three snows we had. It's getting old.

Good discussion guys. I also think I am probably not explaining things clearly. Let me try again. I agree with description of how the lateral line works. Now just think for a minute about a couple things. When you eat how often out of 100 times do you decide to put something in your mouth with the intention of swallowing it as a result of you being exposed to some stimuli related to this item other than sight? My guess is very very seldom. This is how you survive. We use other resources/senses in conjunction and subsequent to sight, but sight is the primary and most efficient. Other means are less efficient and increase risk. The bass is the same way. He will feed by sight almost always. Now the next point. Prey reflect UV Light. Bass see UV Light. What this means is similar to this. Think about driving along and all of a sudden bambi jumps out in front of you. You freak, jerk the wheel, and the next thing you know bambi is gone. When you are telling your friend later about it you don't remember good enough and didn't see good enough whether or not bambi was wearing a white sock or had a white star on her head. It is not proof that you didn't see bambi because you definitely did. It is the same way with the bass. The bass will catch a quick glimpse of a UV light reflection and equate that to a positive feeding experience. This doesn't mean the bass can see the prey perfectly and determine a lot about it. It just sees the flash just like you saw the flash of bambi. Have you ever been sunburned on an overcast day? It is proven that the UV lightwave will penetrate as deep as 40 ft. and is much stronger than other lightwaves. It is very capable of penetrating stained water, just because you can't see doesn't mean it's not there. Now for the kicker which lots of guy get tripped over. Basically the only way to illustrate this to the human eye since we cannot see the natural UV wavelength is to use a blacklight. If you take a green pumpkin, purple plum, black, pumpkin, or just about any other color what you are seeing is what it looks like with the colors reflecting natural light waves that we are capable of seeing. But what about the UV wave? If your bait would reflect the UV light wave those colors would pretty much all look alike which is hard for lots of folks to accept because what it means is that it really doesn't matter what color you throw because the important thing is to reflect the UV lightwave and if you do that most all other colors take a back seat and the strength of UV lightwave stands out and that is what the bass see. It is also the primary factor which signal to a bass that this is food . There are some opinions to the contrary but usually those opinions are based on research done inside a lab under fluorescent light where the presence of UV light is absent. Anyway, that's how I see it.

What I am saying is not really comical, no offense, nor non taken. It boils down to this principle that has been in use for years in a saltwater application. You only need to accept 2 things: 1) Prey reflects Ultraviolet light 2) Bass can see Ultraviolet light If you're good to go on that then why would you want to fish a bait that absorbs UV light when you can fish one that reflects it ? Just because you can't see it is no reason not to believe in it. Hasn't it been proven that visual proof is often the weakest kind of proof. For instance imagine a large steel girder holding up some sort of structure. You believe that the girder is motionless, solid, and inactive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Science (physics) has shown that it is actually a large mass of whirling electrons held together by natural laws. You trust the steady strength of the girder when actually it is very full of motion, you just can't see. The same is true of the UV lightwave. If you can accept those 2 concepts presented above for reality then you are back to deciding whether you want to fish a bait that reflects UV or one that absorbs it. I know which choice I'm gonna make.

Vanish will make your fish vanish. Donj't use it. I'll fish a bubblegum worm any day of the week. Do you understand that prey reflect a light wave that is invisible to the human eye ? Do you also understand that bass can see this light wave ? If you do then that is the color of bait you need to be fishing. This is how you can more truly "match the hatch".

So, who was Buck Perry anyway?

It seems to me that a bit of research ought to turn up a contact where we can determine the La Cygne info before we make the trip. I like to fish the lake and as a matter of fact I caught my 2nd pb from there a few years back. I live about 15 miles north of Topeka and it sure would be nice knowing if they were generating or not before I drug the glitter sled all the way over there. With the daily changing gas prices I'll be not near so spontaneous when it comes to heading over that way.

It's good that he dominates. Even though we might not be able to see it precisely, he makes many of the other pros better. He use his head for something besides a hat rack.

I thought that was a little nuts. Why would that be a little nuts? It's no small undertaking to wind up where he did and that doesn't come cheap. These guys are always gonna plug away. It's business, and business always has the controlling word. They're good, great fishermen and we get to see great competition footage. I like and dislike the plugs both at the same time. Some is helpful, some is nauseating.

Tent camping is my preferred way to go. I have a tent I got at Cabela's I can set up myself in 10 minutes. It is very waterproof and windproof. I use an air mattress. I select a campsite that has electric plugins and is close to the showerhouse. I bring my breakfast, lunch, snacks, and drinks. I usually go to the nearest cafe for dinner if possible so that I can eat a good dinner. I never break camp until after the weighin, then I shower and drive home clean and refreshed. It works great for me, is much more private, and very affordable. I pack a small heater and a small fan. I absolutely hate taking my gear into a motel room every night. I also do not like sitting in the parking lot setting everything up for the next day.

I agree. Expect to see Chapman with another 18+ bag today. Problem is he will need 20+

I think you can take the joke about him backlashing only once every three years one step further. Not only does he have a very trained thumb, I would bet he also has several very well trained and disciplined retrieve/cranking speeds or techniques. He correctly determines how to feed them his bait depending on their mood. I believe he has this type of ability.

They can fish B.A.S.S. professionally. I think the women pros have also put together a woman's circuit. I was just talking to one of them last weekend at a show. If I understood her correctly I believe that was what she was telling me.

And Brent Chapman is 4th with 18 lbs. Gotta love those Tightlines baits

I think probably they are here to stay, probably they are useful some of the time, and there will be times when radar can't fix stupid. That said most guys can benefit from having on there boat. Anyone remember Megabucks where they fished a small lake divided into 10 holes ? I'm just sayin.......

I rarely go in here at home so I don't know what they hav.

Well, thanks for the feedback. Looks like I'll just spend the day in the barn making jigs. I'll give it a try one day next week.

Hey guys, new here to this forum. I am glad to locate some local guys and some local info. I noticed for Wednesday my sources say the wind will be 15-25. When it is forecast that much do you still go to Wolf Creek? I need to get out and Wednesday is my only day this week.

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Hey folks, it took me a while to find ya but looks like a great place . I fish Perry Lake some as it's only 13 miles. Lots of choices here in northeast Ks. so I bounce around a bit. If I had my druthers I'd be over in the Ozarks fishin. Been fishing for 50 yrs and still learning. I'm all ears for the tips. Steve