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That's the one I tried a year or so ago. Picked it up after seeing Hank Parker talking about liking it for small spinnerbaits around trees. Remembered my Dad having an old one that he used to use, so tried it for a bit and hated the balance and feel in your hand. Then after feeling the wrist fatigue after using it for a bit, I gave it to a friend who wanted to try it.

Don't care for them. Too hard on the wrist after a while.

The ones I have with me all the time are a Spinnerbait, Senko, and Chigger Craw or Rage Craw on a jig, or belly-weighted swim hook if I'm looking to downsize.

Just an update,... I ordered a variety of items from Siebert and was very happy with what I got. I ordered a few different Fogy baita, a couple Shot Caller swim jigs, a couple Dredge brush jigs, and a couple different type of spinnerbaits. One regular and one compact. The quality of everything seemed to be very good, and I liked the option of the wire tied skirts that I had chosen. No more picking a jig and finding the rubber band had deteriorated and fell apart. Only have had a chance to try out the Fogy, but I already know I like it. It seems to throw a good amount of vibration and it starts up nice and quick. Considering the price and the quality,... I have no doubt I will be ordering more!!

I'd say match them up however they seem to work best for you, but if it were me, I'd start with the following: 6.2 Curado on HMG M Mod (Cranks?) 6.4 Silvermax on the Field Stream MH Mod 8.5 Curado K on Lews xfinity 7'4" H F (Jigs) 7.2 Curado on Veritas MH F (Spinnerbait maybe) Lews Carbonfire on the Fenwick Eagle If things don't balance well rearrange to what feels best

Have it hit out towards your target a little more than next to you and lift your rod tip as it starts the skip. It does two things,... It keeps your line out of the water, but also helps pick up line slack that could lead to over-run on the spool. I'm still learning too. Found that my '17 Tat SV on my 7' Zodius MH F is a decent combo and seems to work well. Currently throwing a SK Andy Montgomery skipping jig. I like the screw baitkeeper.

I was using Sufix Tritanium Plus, but just ran out of my last bulk spool of 12lb. I also use a lot of Big Game, but up for trying something different. Seeing quite a few suggestions for Sufix Siege and Advance or Sunline Super Natural or Defier. May have to order some of each and see what I like.

Not to hijack this thread, but a quick question... The old BB1 reels were a favorite to some for crankbait fishing because they didnt have an instant anti-reverse and actually backed up a bit when setting the hook. Some liked this feature as they said it slowed the hookset enough to give the fish time to get ahold of it. Is that still the case on the newer BB1 Pro models, or do they have instant anti-reverse now? Ive thought about picking one up but don't like a delay in the anti-reverse like a lot of old spinning rods had where you let off the handle and it backs up a bit til it catches.

Wow!! That's a lot of play. I set mine tighter than that. I slowly tighten mine little by little as I am clacking the spool side to side and stop when I can no longer detect movement. If I were to guess, I'd say I am somewhere between 0.000" and 0.010" of movement. You can just barely see movement in the spool if looking at where the spool edge and frame meet. I don't want tension on the spool, but I don't want side to side slop in the spool either. To each their own. This just works well for me.

I bought a Dobyns FR 803SB for throwing 8XD and 10XD. It is the Boom Boom Roumbanis swimbait rod that is the same blank as the 806cb, and even says 10XD right on it as one of the suggestions. Dobyns was closing them out for $139 not too long ago so I picked one up. I currently throw 5XD and 6XD on a Dobyns 735cb glass. Both are currently set up with Gen 3 Revo Winch reels.

Oh, you guys just don't let up!! LOL! I told you this was the most dangerous thread. I'm not going to go look! I'm not going to go look!! ???

That makes sense the,.. If that is the case I think I would recommend the HD as well, and yes,... I believe it does have brass gears.

Got it. Kind of like a combination of a swim bait/shakeyhead so the finesse worm bridges from the eye to the hook. Makes sense! I will have to try that!! Thanks!

I understand you liking the Zillion. It's one of my favorites at the moment too. I typically don't equate line capacity as an issue when flipping and pitching since neither uses much line. I think the Zillion would be fine for either, though I understand your thoughts on the Bantam being a good choice for the heavy stuff due to its rigid design. As for your thoughts on having to put a high dollar reel on a high dollar rod,... I understand what you're saying, but my suggestion would be to not put too much emphasis on that, and here's why I say that.. When I bought my Zillion SV, I brought it home thinking I was going to put it on a Dobyns Champion crankbait rod. I put it on there and didn't like the feel and balance. Tried a bunch of other reels and decided my cheaper SLX felt the best. I've thrown that setup all day multiple times and am happy with it. The Zillion ended up on a different rod that balances well. To be honest,... I think I currently have it on a Fury 733 throwing spinnerbaits and I love it. Go with what feels right in your hand!!!

Because if you pull it apart to clean, or have to do any maintenance ( i.e. replace a bearing), you will have to reset the tension. They are just saying they initially set it for you. Plus,.. Some people just have to mess with things. Tackle Advisors has a good video on the Zillion where one of the first things he says is that the first thing he does with the no-adjust tension is that he adjusts it!

I do the same thing with fanning out the weedguard. Curious about the finesse worm trick you mentioned, but having a hard time visualizing it. Would you be willing to take a picture and attach?

Yeah,... I'm weak and ordered both the 734c and the 736cb glass. ?

Welcome!! Lots of good and knowledgeable people here!!

You mean like Horshack on Welcome Back Kotter?? ??

I really think this is the most dangerous thread on this site!! I don't "Need" anything right now,.. Or maybe ever again, but still tempted to order either the 734c, the 736cb glass, or both. Only concern is what if these new corks suck after a while?!? I don't have a Champion 734c though (just a Fury and Sierra), and that Mossy Swirl on the 736cb glass is pretty cool looking.

With all due respect Tom... I don't get what you're saying and why you call us clueless. For the techniques I use my 6.2 Fuegos, which is rated for 34" IPT, it works very well. I can skip a wacky rig back under a dock, tree or rock cropping,.. Give a few twitches with the rod, then quickly bring it back in and cast to the next spot. For things like throwing a moving bait like grub on a jighead, inline spinner, etc, I tend to use my Pfleuger Presidents, which are 5.2 gear ratio and IPT of 20" in the small 6720 up to 28" in the 35 model. I typically use the 30 or 35 models, and feel a 25" - 28" IPT works pretty good for me on moving baits. Not trying to argue, just trying to understand if you were saying people don't realize how fast a 6.2 spinning reel can be. Some of us do, and like it for certain applications.

If you are talking about the newer Curado K 200,... I agree. I don't have one because they always felt big and heavy when I held them. I have the following setups to compare SLX MGL on a Dobyns Sierra 682C for poppers SLX on Champion 705cb with DT10 Curado MGL on Champion 704cb small cranks and jerks 18 Bantam MGL on Champ 736cb glass for bladed jigs SLX MGL feels smallest and lightest Curado MGL is close, but a hair wider and longer then SLX MGL and feels a bit heavier. SLX and Bantam feel about the same size in hand when palming. Id have a hard time telling the difference shapewise if Bantam wasn't smooth and SLX rougher satin finish. Bantam is a bit heavier, but balances nice on the 736cb glass and is rigid and SMOOTH. Close comparison on shape but not on fishing enjoyment!! I REALLY like all of them for what I use them for, and for the record I am more of a Daiwa guy,..but I like what I like! Shimanos are my ling casters and I use a lot of Daiwa for closer in work.

^^This^^ For me I use my two 6.2:1 Fuegos for wacky rig and weightless tube to skip under and around docks and trees.

Or better yet,... Let us know you're ok!!

Here's how I typically do it if just moving line from one reel to another to swap ends. I lightly clamp source reel in workbench vise and loosen drag, then tie the line to reel I'm moving it to and reel it direct from one reel to the other. If just moving line from one reel to another and don't want to swap ends, I reel it onto a back-up reel, then do it aagin to the final destination reel so spool end stays at base of spool. Takes just a few minutes per reel. I do this if I'm wanting to change out setups and want to move lines from one reel to another rather than waste it. I do this mostly if moving flouro or braid to save the expense. Not as worthwhile with cheaper mono.