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Wacky rigged 4" senko in a baitfish color. Toss it right in the action and let it fall through to the big guys lurking below.

I got the App and found the magazine in the listing but get a connection error very time I try to get it.

You are missing an important part of my point. What I am saying is that the OP might not be doing too badly catching only a few a day depending upon the conditions he is fishing. Who knows if a pro would slay them or not. I know a lot of the lakes I fish you aren't going to catch a whole lot from shore after the weather warms up. There just isn't access to where the fish are. If there are no fish where you are fishing it doesn't matter what you have or how good you are with it. But I wouldn't mind having a shot at them with their boat, electronics, gear, and sponsors. I mean come one... who wouldn't!

I don't see an ap in the amazon store called "pocket mag" am I spelling it correctly?

Is this available on the amazon market for kindle fire?

I don't know about that, lets play along further... This is a bank fishing tournament which means they are going to be limited in a way that they are not used to sponsors, gear and everything else isn't going to make as much difference when you have to walk the banks. Being shore bound take a TON out of any professional anglers whole mindset. Locations, electronics, 30 different rods rigged are all out the window. Remember this is a shore bound angler wanting a shore bound tournament. Depending on time of year, and lake physics even the best fisherman might struggle to catch more than a few here and there.

Here most lakes are a 15" limit so you aren't weighing in anything much under 2#. 3# and over give a nice rush for me but I won't weigh or look for a pic unless I think they are over 4. 5s get us high fiving.

Just a thought, if you scratched and tore up an aluminum boat in just a few years then a glass boat might not be for you. A glass boat will give you a more comfortable ride in the big water but if you are scratching aluminum... You will be getting a lot of repairs done to a glass hull with those situations that will scratch and dent Al.

You could get all of that info for yourself with some legwork on sites like this one as well as the tournament trail sites. If it is a smaller body of water you would probably not get any info regardless, unless they make stuff up lol.

PROS: I liked the format.... at first. It kind of broke down for me some when the whole field started dink hunting. The later episodes I just wanted to fast forward and watch the last period where there was some excitement. I found myself wanting them to stop chasing the schools of 1 to 2 lb fish and start culling. Would have liked to see a minimum weight to score for one of the rounds to see some guys going for bigger fish. I liked the real time leader board. Awesome watching it get into the heads of the anglers. I liked the no practice or waypoints aspect. Was great seeing the anglers fish from their skill and experience. CONS: I didn't like the constant repeating of the praises of the new format and the real time scoring, as it started to feel like watching Roland Martin trying to sell a new tournament format. I didn't like all of the profanity and tantrums from a few of the anglers. Even though it was bleeped out most of the time, I found myself having to turn it off and wait til my 6yr old wasn't around to watch it. I couldn't believe how they were allowing the anglers to carry on. If they want to have a "major league" caliber of event they need to have the participants act like professionals. Professional athletes get thrown out of games for flying off the handle, why should professional fisherman get attention for it?

Just so I have all of the background right... He taught you how to fish. You have been friends since childhood. He misses a tournament claiming he is sick. You want to cut him off. He isn't a real frind? I would think an almost lifetime friendship should be able to weather a missed tournament for whatever reason might have come up. I personally think that you should be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Sure it stinks to miss a tournament. But it would stink even worse to cut him off and find out he woke up half hour before the tournament puking his guts up. If he has been a good friend for so long, and is a good fishing partner than you would only be punishing yourself for being harsh.

I love fishing from the back. I often get fish that the boater misses. I like not having to worrt about boat position and concentrating on the fish.

I live in Philly... they come in the house with me.

I am by no means a real experienced or good fisherman. But in my experience success breeds success. What I would do rather then tell someone to leave everything else home. I would attempt to set them up for success. I remember my experiences learning different lures with my brother. He would talk about the lake we were on and what the conditions might call for and made suggestions. Those days I learned to throw different lures because that is what he suggested and they worked. Those lures soon became my "favorites" and I had to learn later to branch out and try different things. But those early days lit a fire in me to keep trying until I found success. Experience cannot be short cut. I had to learn much on my own (some times the hard way) what might work and what might not. But through his teaching, and the success we shared I had gained some level of confidence that kept me from giving up. I say bring it all with you, but force yourself to branch out and find new confidence. My goal this season is to do just that. I have never been a hardbait fisherman. I was brought up on jigs and plastics. But I know that I am short changing myself on many days. This drives me to try new things and press harder to learn to cover more water looking for active fish rather than crawling something through unproductive water.

Nice fish. Btw I love your forum sig!

I would like to know the results of research on this. I fish mainly small waters compared to most. Here in PA the bass season opens so late that the water temps are usually high when bass tournament season starts. The lakes I fish are all under 1000 acres (between 500 and 700 I believe) and receive a healthy amount of tournament pressure. As many as two tournaments a week during the average summer season. I would think if there were a high delayed mortality rate you would see evidence on such a small body of water. All of the guys I know try our best to keep em alive and healthy. I see panfish and carp floating often but hardly ever any bass. Again, this isn't scientific evidence just personal observation on my home lakes. I would love to see scientific data to show what the delayed mortality is on a normal scale. Because as you pointed out I don't see it. As I see it in that link the "problem" with the additives for livewells isn't that they don't work or do as they say for the fish, but that there may or may not be compounds that would remain in the fish that could be consumed later by humans.

Very good read! I have a question that may sound stupid but I offer it anyway. How different would it be on a man made reservior lake? I live in an urban area where most if not all of the lakes within 100 miles of me are manmade flood control/water storage lakes. How would the locations and seasonal movements of bass differ in these lakes than say a natural lake with similar topography? How do lakes with a thermocline impact this movement?

Shouldn't the chart part of the GPS mapping be stored on your unit or the sd card? I would check to make sure the card didn't pop out of the slot or something sily like that. I think (I could be very wrong here) that the solar storm would inhibit the gps giving your location not showing the mapping points in the unit. Unless of course the unit thinks you are in the middle of a desert somewhere lol.

I have used both and they work very well.

If any of you fellers that have sidescan/downscan stuff and after reading this thread feel that your sport has been cheapened by such things by all means PM me and I will take your technology off of your hands! Really, I think if it makes the sport "less fun" for someone they would sell it and move on. IMHO what others have or use has no bearing on what fun I have in the sport. When I started fishing it was a zebco 202 on a fiberglass pole and a can of crawlers. My son's experience is far more advanced than what I had but is it any less fun for him? I don't think so.

I have a universal non threaded base in the front of my boat. I bought it not realizing my seat poles were threaded. My poles were too long to sit properly in the base. I ended up getting a large screw driver and bashing out the bottom of the seat base so the threads would go down through. I haven't had a problem at all. I leave the seat in 24/7 even when trailering on the highway and have had no issues.

I don't see a need for a third recirc pump. Just use a good livewell additive and keep the water cool with ice and you should be fine. Just be careful how much you fill that 150qt cooler in a 14' boat. Every gallon of water adds approx 8lbs of weight to your rig. if you put 30 gallons of water in it you are adding 240lbs of weight to your 14' boat. It adds up fast. In my 16' rig I have a fill pump through the transom. There is a single recirculation/pump out pump in the bottom of the well running to a t-fitting and valves to direct the water. one way is the spray bar at the top, the other is the pump out on the side of the boat. On the side I have an overflow that goes right out the side so I can change the water by simply adding more water. On a small boat I am a fan of smaller livewell and changing out the water a few times as opposed to relying on sheer volume.

Haven't been out yet, trolling motor is in the shop

I noticed on that grunman that all of the floors etc are new. I would take a look to make sure they did it right before putting down 4k on a 21 year old boat and motor. If someone did a slip shod job on the floors you will have rot in just a few seasons. Personally I would try and get that boat for under 3K and that is if everything checks out. That looks like a good boat for a family of four. My wife and I take our 4 and 6 year old out in our 16' fisher mod V, but we don't fish much. More or less take turns keeping an eye on the kiddos. Make sure whatever you get that they wear their PFD! My advice get them one they will like, it could save their life but only if they wear it.

How do you run it? Do you get up on plane @ WOT first and back down slow on the throttle?