Thai

...those authors need a slap in the face if they think that... ahah but i hear you on the whole crap shoot thing...

I worked in the tropical fish importing business for about 2 years and was an active hobbyist (really a specialist in Discus) and I have been catching Oscars and Mayans for many years now in S. Florida and even though you have posted low quality pictures I can absolutely be certain that the they are pictures of................drum roll please....... Astronotus ocellatus not Cichlasoma urophthalmu. Thank you sir! Are Mayans still lob into Cichlasoma? I swore they were reclassified under Amphilophus much like The Jack Dmepsey went from archocentrus to Nandopsis and then finally Rocio.. But again thank you sir for helping me prove my point that those in fact are Oscars not mayans

Second that

Yeah my friend has a whole room dedicated to his two alligators, made the mistake of picking one up while drunk one night and boy can those things bite ahahah

Welcome Bill to the site and to the area as I am in NOVA also, mosey on over the the Southeast section as us NOVA guys tend to dominate it haha there are couple threads over there that might contain information on the area you're looking for. Again welcome aboard and hope to fish with ya soon -Thai

Why? Do you want to fess up to something Dan? haha But in the video they said that authorities believed he was selling them online on sites such as ebay, im sure if they got a hold of his computer or paypal records they could easily track down those who had delt with him

Is that picture still around of have all of his post been removed and archived already?

Glenn couldnt you just merge the two thread? No point in there being two threads on the same subject wouldnt ya think?

I think he meant why you brought that up in this thread is completely off topic and who are you and your 4 post to judge? What has he done to you? Better quit while you're ahead and and just hit the unregister button pal Back to topic I remember my brother getting me my first fishing rod when i was 12, it was an Ungly stick combo and it served me very well, I even got another ugly stick after that, well 9 years and thousands of dollars later I've move on to more quality gear but will still remember the ugly stick my big brother got me that started it all But there is nothing wrong with the combos RW posted, I would go with one of those just because the are more aesthetically pleasing and dont have a super duper ultra megatron extra fast tip hahah

Lots of fishing

Astronutus and Amphilophus species can not interbreed, they will pair up and spawn but the eggs arent fertile. You are correct in that most cichlids can and do hybridize in the aquarium trade, but oscars and Mayans do not and will not in the wild

June's awhile away man save up haha, i think last years tickets were around 170 each way if not round trip and if so thats super cheap

I think they said he might of fled to Tulsa, they might want to check the Bass Pro over in broken arrow over there ;D

I'll catch a big bass for ya soon buddy. Bass are as numerous as ants around these parts. which is why I need to make a trip down there

no, he was just planting a landmine for you to step in later. ;D a smart dog, indeed. Luckily he did it where i never walk!

tight tight well if you ever want some high quality fish whether it be f0's or selectively breed red empress' or peacocks or whatever you need. I know some good importers and breeders man

whatta you know it does change it to nuts lol

AHHHH Gotcha haha well my dog took a big rabbit this morning in the snow and had the curtesy to bury his rabbit with the snow so i wouldnt have to walk outside to pick up his rabbit, such a smart dog

huh? that made no sense to me..... btw i didnt you you had cichlids bro whats up with that

ahaha please feel free to post up and catch a bis bass while you're out there, what worked good for me while I was in Sfl was using a live mayan ad bait, now thats true mayan not oscar ok bud! ;D

Aaron, you fell right into his well executed trap...

haha thanks and please dont take this the wrong way, just as a hobbyist I have to win this one because allthough how bad of a picture you took body shape does not lie, oscars have a more rounded body and does not display a sloping head like a mayan which is an amphilopus species btw Another is the fully wrapped tail that the oscars have a mayans rarely fully wrap

......cichlids are in fact not all the same, you have thousands of differnt kinds in north/central, and south america and than there are rift lakes, african streams and madagascan cichlids not the same just like a mayan is not an oscar

Sorry bro but as a hobbyist I wont let you win this one haha Thats an oscar look at the round face and lack of vertical bars Please Andrew or Dave chime in here

The one in the second post is infact a Myan but the first two were oscars, trust me bro, I've been keeping cichlids for over 13 years, lots of cichlids have the eye spots on the tails you are refering to. Oscar Your "mayan"