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Casting A Spro Bronzeye

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Yesterday I picked up a spro bronzeye frog to check out. I dont have a whole lot of experience with frogs, as I. Only owned a pad crasher jr. And never caught a fish on it. Usually I cast it on spinning gear, but Im wondering if the Spro has enough weight on it to throw on a caster. Anyone cast these things on casting equipment?

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I use a baitcaster with them, and all three sizes of the Koppers frog as well. It gets dicey on the tiny koppers, but the medium size (which is the same as the bronzeye) whips them out there pretty good.

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I throw the Broneye and the bronzeye jr on a 6'6" MH baitcast rod with a Shimano Citica and 50 lb test braid. It gives me the comfort that I can haul bass out of the weeds and slop that i typically catch the bass. Most of my bites come from a pretty steady chugging retreive.  I hope you catch some fish. Frog fishing is sooo much fun!

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Frogs are some of the best casting baits you will find.  You can launch them a long way with a heavy powered baitcasting rod and braid.  I wouldn't even consider fishing one on spinning gear.

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I think you'll find that about 90% or more frog throwers use a casting rig.

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Spro 65 size frogs rated 5/8oz my actual is .60095oz plenty heavy for bc use. I use Pad Crasher JR with bc as well those rated 1/4oz actual weight .31085oz.

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I ended up throwing it on one of my casters tonight,and it casted like a dream. Still didnt catch any fish on it though. I cant seem to get a walk down, with the hollow body frogs.

I liked the way it felt though, alot better than the pad crasher.

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I ended up throwing it on one of my casters tonight,and it casted like a dream. Still didnt catch any fish on it though. I cant seem to get a walk down, with the hollow body frogs.

I liked the way it felt though, alot better than the pad crasher.

Hope you catch a bunch! I have cast frogs of various sizes for yrs on heavy spinning rod & reel with 12lb -20 lbs Trilene XL

...never had a fish break the line...imagine that! lol

But, to each his own...I don't bash bait-casters at all...but it can be done otherwise.

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As you found out tonight, you can chuck frogs all day on baitcasting gear.  Honestly, your doing yourself a favor by doing so.  Fish that bite a frog usually need a solid hookset to get them put on the hooks well and a baitcasting setup is just better for this situation.  Also, it is a must to fish frogs on braid.  I throw 30-65lb depending on the nastiness of the cover I'm fishing.  Mono/copoly have too much stretch to consistently hook and land bass that strike the frog.  And throwing it on fluorocarbon is impractical because it sinks and the frog wont walk right and you will miss every fish that bites because of the line sagging underwater.

 

Now here's some suggestions for modifying that frog and getting it to walk.  First thing I do is trim the legs so they are about an inch and a half long and I leave one slightly shorter than that other.  This creates drag on one side and helps it do its thing.  Next, put some superglue where the hook is coming out of belly of the frog.  Make sure it is airtight after it dries.  Basically, when you squeeze the frog, it wont deflate because no air can escape.  Next, take a razor blade and cut a small, quarter to a half inch slit on the back 1/3 on the frogs back and try your best to make it centered perfectly.  This allows for 2 things.....one, the bait wont take on water like it does when the hook opening is open on the frog's belly.  SInce the air's escape route is now on the part of the frog that is out of the water, you spend less time squeezing and more time with the frog in the water.  The other thing is this allows you to add a rattle if you want.  There are certain scenarios when a rattle can help the frog bite, like when the water is off colored or the cover is real thick.  It helps them locate it and at times I think it makes them curious to at least come and check it out.  If there following it, you know now where they are and can usually catch them on something else. 

 

Now to make it walk.......it's all in popping slack line.  Point the rod down and snap six inches of line or so with each wrist motion and do your best to time the pop to where the line goes taut at the very last second of the downward snapping motion.  Once you get this mastered, you can literally walk it in place and even to get it to swing wide to one side or the other to navigate it to run into cover.  Actually, as I'm writing this, I am seeing the Bassresource backround photo with the angler fishing around the Cyprus trees.  Scroll all the way to the bottom of this page and you should see the picture.  That's a perfect example of the angle you want to hold the rod at when making the small twitches to make the bait walk.

 

Hope this helps out.  Come update this thread after your next try with the frog and let us know how it went.  Frog fishing is addictive, dude.

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i missed a big one tonight on a spo killer gill color popper frog. using 50 pound suffix braid i had my drag way too lose and he was hooked under a big patch of grass beds and got off. i wouldnt use a spinning rod for frogs i would go 30 to 65 pound braid and baitcaster. i use a diawa 7.4 heavy frog rod. another thing is wait about a second and a half after the bass takes the frog then pull up hard, reason is it can be very tuff too get the hook set on bass with frogs cause the weedless hooks. i have missed about 4 big bass this year cause its the first year i have used frogs.

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The Booyah pond crasher, is a cheaper hollow body frog, with a draining hole already applied to its back. Get to know how to use a frog well before you start doing modifications to it. Trust me, when you finally come across a bass that wants your offering, it will be very willing to take it.

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senok_77 said the most important part of walking. Slack line.  You need slack line to make the frog walk.  I get quite a few bites just chugging the joker back, without a real walk back and forth.  Vary your retreive until you get what the fish like.  also, if you are using braid, it should help you feel more comfortable throwing it places other things cant get too. If your line wraps, most of the time it will break the branches. So, I would suggest Braid, but I started with mono.  When I was doing best with the frog on mono, I was trying to make the line make a slapping noise on the water, about 2-3 foot from top guide.  I knew the line was slack when it made the slap. 

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Walking a frog is important to learn, however it's not critical. You will still catch plenty of bass, while you are learning to walk the frog.

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Walking a frog is important to learn, however it's not critical. You will still catch plenty of bass, while you are learning to walk the frog.

The booyah and spro walk very easily on slack line, but most of my bass this year have been on a straighter retreive.  Also  stop the frog periodically, sometimes it triggers a hit.

BTW I do all my froggin with a baitcaster.

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When yall are setting the hook on a frog, are you setting at say 11:00 or 12:00?

Id say I set at 2:00 or 3:00.

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People modify their frogs in many different ways. The post above is more radical than I have done with mine, but I am just starting. Not a critique, just a FYI. Also watch the bassresource frog videos.

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Key things with a frog are line, hookset, rod and reel.  Line you need braid period don’t use anything else, you need no stretch in the line.  When the fish explodes on the lure and you feel the weight of the fish set the hook.  Reel up the slack point the rod towards the fish and bring up the rod to 12 oClock.  When that fish hits the frog chances are it’s time to set the hook, give it a few seconds sometimes just a second.  The more practice the better judge you will be as to when to set the hook.  Rod to me is 7ft MH with a fast action.  Reel something with a high speed to bring in that fish quick..   I like to bend the hooks out slightly watch Ish’s video on youtube on how to do this it improves hookup ratios.

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I have noticed, many questions about frogging are geared toward the hook set, but not many explain what to do once the fish is hooked. I feel this plays an important role in the success of catching a nice bass. Many of us are in agreement that braid is top line to use in this situation, and by reading some of the responses on other threads many fish become unbuttoned. What I have learned with frog fishing is after the hookset, contain your excitement and not over work the fish. Keeping constant pressure, a moderate reel speed, is one way to increase your chances of landing that fish. Overpowering and overworking a fish is one way to pull the hooks out.

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