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What Size Hook For 10' Rage Tail Thumper?

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Picked some of these up at Academy to see what all the fuss is about, but the problem is my 5/0 gammies seem to be dwarfed by this worm. It's the same hook I use for my 11' C-mac's but since there's more body to this worm than the C-Mac's.

  • Super User

5/0 straight shank round bend ;)

  • Author

So I was using the right size hook? I was considering jumping up to a 7/0. I guess it's just how short the tail is makes it look bigger.

  • Super User

Worm hook sizes aren't standardized!

What is important is the diameter of the worm body where the hook is placed, length beyond that point doesn't matter.

General rule is the hook gap should be 2x worm body diameter.

Tom

Dang man, 10 foot baits.. you trying to catch gators?

:) I like 4/0 gammy EWG :)

  • Author

Worm hook sizes aren't standardized!

What is important is the diameter of the worm body where the hook is placed, length beyond that point doesn't matter.

General rule is the hook gap should be 2x worm body diameter.

Tom

Yeah, I forgot about this since I only use gamakatsu hooks and don't ever see a difference.

I'm not familiar with the "Thumper",and its diameter  but I use a lot of thick plastics including the Culprit 9" fat max and have had good results with the Gammy's Heavy Cover Worm hook in 4/0 or 5/0..

 

That line of hooks has a wider gape compared with its length.

  • Super User

For Gammies, I use a 4/0 or 5/0.  Both seem to work fine!

 

Jeff

For Gammies, I use a 4/0 or 5/0.  Both seem to work fine!

 

Jeff

I have limited use with the thumper but on occasion will throw one.  I throw plenty of 10-12 inch worms however.

if you put the 4/0 and 5/0 side by side there really is a negligible size difference comparatively to the worm, and each will have enough gap to allow the worm to ball up on a hookset.  I tend to throw a 5/0 but 4/0 results are no different in hookup ratio.

 

Edit- was supposed to be directed to op

Edited by Nice_Bass

  • Super User

Not a fan of off set wide gap hook for worms; Gamamkatsu #484 or Owner #5103 in size 4/0 or 5/0 depending on big worm diameter.

Tom

I use the Owner twist lock in a 5/0 and never had any problems. I'm hooked on these.

  • Author

You can go to the owner oversized 7/0 if it will make it look right to you but about all you are going to need is a 5/0 gammy offset wide gap

Yeah, I was just going to do this but then I would be hurting the action. The 5/0 is plenty big as well it's just the way the worm' s short tail makes the body look huge.

  • Author

I'm seeing everyone say that they only have limited experience with this worm, so in your honest opinion is it anything special?

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4/0 or 5/0 like most others, but I've been useing Gammy's Skip Gap type lately and realy like those better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

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I'm seeing everyone say that they only have limited experience with this worm, so in your honest opinion is it anything special?

 

 

I have more than limited experience.  I use it a lot.  My go to "curly tail"(kinda)  worm.  Caught a 5lb 1 oz out o public waters with it 3 weeks ago.  10'' Okeechobee craw

 

Jeff

I'd use a 5/0 for and 10" thumper, I have now experience with 10' ones though...  :eyebrows:

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I'm using a 6/0 EWG Moaner and 8/0  EWG Trokar. I like the Trokar better.

  • Author

I have more than limited experience.  I use it a lot.  My go to "curly tail"(kinda)  worm.  Caught a 5lb 1 oz out o public waters with it 3 weeks ago.  10'' Okeechobee craw

 

Jeff

I call the worms with tails like these c tail worms. I really like the z-man elaztech worms.

 

 

I'm using a 6/0 EWG Moaner and 8/0  EWG Trokar. I like the Trokar better.

I like trokars but since I only fish from the bank I snag up to much to spend a dollar per hook.

  • Super User

To be honest I don't like the design; thick sigmented body with a curl tail. This type of worm tends to be stiffer due to the injection molded plastisol is harder than hand poured. GY make a 10" cut tail that is popular and Uptom's Customs has a hand poured that works good.

Tom

I'm seeing everyone say that they only have limited experience with this worm, so in your honest opinion is it anything special?

I think there are better worms, yes.

I cut a 10 or 12 inch power worm tail to match if that is what I want.  better worm, and I don't have to buy more/different packs of worms.

I buy by the 100pk though, so it makes sense for me.

Picked some of these up at Academy to see what all the fuss is about, but the problem is my 5/0 gammies seem to be dwarfed by this worm. It's the same hook I use for my 11' C-mac's but since there's more body to this worm than the C-Mac's.

The minimum I use is a 5/0 offset roundbend and up to a 6/0 EWG or a 6/0 screw lock typical to the Moaner Predator Hook.

 

 

I'm seeing everyone say that they only have limited experience with this worm, so in your honest opinion is it anything special?

In my opinion the 10' Thumper is the best and most versatile straight worm on the market. Not only can it be fished as is with the hook shaped "swimtail", the tail also has a dash line on it so it can be clipped to provide a fast side to side flapping motion. You can see the different actions on our 'Bringin Heat Video'. Or you can clip the tail so that its even more straight and remove the flange which gives the worm no action other than what it would have on the fall or any movement you provide it with your rod tip. The segmented body is also very advantageous to the action of the worm. You'll notice that the worm is only round at the head then tapers to flat sides all the way to the tail. This design provides more vibration in the body during the swimming motion. You can also utilize each section to shorten the worm easily if necessary.  I fish this worm a lot and my biggest fish to date on it is 14+ but I have caught easily over 100 10+ bass on this worm alone and I have a volume of photos of others who not only use it but have caught their Pb's on it as well. As you can probably tell, I am extremely proud of this design and I would not change it a bit!

 

It's amazing how some who are inexperienced and/or lacking of knowledge in a given field, will make certain statements as if those statements are FACTS... Most often, those same people want others to think they're an authority or have superior knowledge regarding such things. Where a statement was noted above... "This type of worm tends to be stiffer due to the injection molded plastisol is harder than hand poured", This statement is totally incorrect as injection molded plastics can be made to any durometer, hardness or texture that any hand pour or otherwise can be produced.
 
Have FUN and I hope you too catch a Grande with your Thumper worms ;)

 

Bringin Heat Video

http://youtu.be/l-AP4_p0bGM

 

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  • Super User

I don't know...I'm think'in that Big O might know a thing or two about a worm he spent a few years designing

and testing. Whadda you think? Is a 100 fish over 10 lbs a big deal? I'm not comparing myself to The Man,

but I have probably caught more than 50 over 5lbs on the Thumper. My preference is to clip the tail, but that's

your choice.

 

 

 

:fishing-026:

  • Super User

Alright RW you & that Big O boy need stop giving out all these secrets!

  • Super User

You are right it's unfair to make a statement about a products that I am not familiar with. I am familiar with the differences of injection vs hand poured plastisol.

Proof is in the pudding and you have proof! I fish a lot with big worms with good success and will give this worm a try.

Peace.

Tom

PS; the old Flip Tail was a soft segmented tappered injection molded worm that worked very well. This worm looks to be rectangular or oval cross section and more tapered than the ads reveal.

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