Why didn't anybody warn me what a pain these are to tie?

What?? They are super easy to tie.

What?? They are super easy to tie.

I guess I didn't think it through. I could of Palomar'd the main line , then improved cinched the weight line? All the swivel wanted to do is spin against my knot.

I Palomar the weight line and then Palomar the main line. Feed the whole thing back through the loop and your done.

I use Uni knots for them, faster and easier for me.

Very weak hooks IMO. Broke a few hooks in the first pack I ever used and never used them again. 

I'll stick with the gamakatsu split/drop hooks, never really had a problem with line twist anyway.

Never had a problem with them. Many 4-6lb brown and green fish landed on them. I find them easy to tie on. Trilene knot on each side of the swivel.

I use palomar knots you just have to do the one on the dropper side first, and then tie the whole thing on. As for their strength, I have yet to have a problem with them and I've played tug-o-war with plenty of big smallies which most know, pull like a tank.

Never had a problem with them. Many 4-6lb brown and green fish landed on them. I find them easy to tie on. Trilene knot on each side of the swivel.

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I use Uni knots for them, faster and easier for me.

 

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Never broke one of these either.

These are great hooks, just takes a little getting used to. I was frustrated also until I worked out a system and now i love them. It's much easier tying the weighted side first. I use Palomar knots because I'm a creature of habit but whatever knot you like best. If you fish tournaments like me, I prepare 5-6 drop shot weights tied to cut lines and have them ready to go if I break off. Follow these steps and it will become very easy.

 

 1. Measure out 18 inches(ish) of line and cut.

 2. Tie the weighted side (bottom Side) of the swivel to the cut line and add desired weight to the end of the line.

 3. Tie the top side of the swivel to the line from your reel.

 4. Add bait to hook, (I almost always nose hook a drop shot)

 5. Cast out and catch fish.

 

I don't really set the hook on drop shot, mostly just lift the rod up above my head and reel em in seems to land them just fine

I have been using the VMC spinshots for the past 3 years with zero issues.

they were a pain for me to tie as well last year. some of the tips in this thread should help with that this year though...not my thread but still helpful to me, thanks for the info everyone...

I use improved clinch knots on both ends. Great hooks, no complaints.

I like the Spin-Shot alot and I never had a problem with them!! I like to fish a double drop with them and this way I cover more water and now and then I get a double hook up!    

I use improved clinch knots on both ends. Great hooks, no complaints.

 

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I like the Spin-Shot alot and I never had a problem with them!! I like to fish a double drop with them and this way I cover more water and now and then I get a double hook up!    

 That's a really great idea. Can't believe I've never thought of it, you bet I will be trying that out this year.

No issues with them either. Palomar knot on top and IC on the bottom.

I don't think I can break one of these hooks with 6-8lb flouro. I have had no issues with these hooks and have had good success with them in the short time I've used them