Am I the only one that thinks a 9.0:1 might be a little overkill?

I wanted to try one, but I hated the color!

 

But now theres this

 

So now Im like 

Why would it be over kill? You use the rod to work the bait. Any reasonable fast to fast retrieve is fine for frogs, so long as it's a metal framed reel.

You don't reel in steadily for the bait to work, basically the bait is worked by the rod.

I wanted to try one, but I hated the color!

 

But now theres this

 

So now Im like 

So is the only difference the color?

There is no such thing as a gear ratio "too fast" for frogging.

So is the only difference the color?

shallower spool and a clicking drag too

 

 

to the OP, the extra speed is great for frogging

shallower spool and a clicking drag too

 

 

to the OP, the extra speed is great for frogging

 

 

 

So it holds less line, but the benefit is it's more low profile?

 

 

 

And whats the benefit of a clicking drag?

fishing line is relatively heavy so a spool that holds less line will be lighter and have less inertia to overcome at spool startup. it will be more effortless for pitching and casting lighter lures.

as for the clicking drag, it's mainly cool I guess.

fishing line is relatively heavy so a spool that holds less line will be lighter and have less inertia to overcome at spool startup. it will be more effortless for pitching and casting lighter lures.

as for the clicking drag, it's mainly cool I guess.

Most baitcasters with a clicking drag are meant for light line, so you know line is being pulled, or for seabass because a lot of that is done at night.

The Japanese version color is cooler. Regarding speed, if the torque can hold up then there shouldn't be a problem. When you have a fast reel that feels impossible to crank under then u have an issue. I give Abu credit for continually trying to create specific reels for specific purposes. If it helps to create a more tuned in combo for a specific purpse, then so be it, all the better

Never used one that fast but when I'm grinding in a good frog fish I don't want higher than 6:3 or so

How much is the jap version? Us is already $300 that gotta be an ice cold $500 right?

How much is the jap version? Us is already $300 that gotta be an ice cold $500 right?

About $350. Most reels are cheaper when purchased from Japan; especially with the Yen in a pretty good spot.

I use a walking action with a frog a lot of the time, to do this well you need to manage the slack in your line.  I prefer a reel with a little lower IPT than typical 7.1:1 reels offer.  Having a reel with a lower IPT allows me to have a better rhythm while walking the frog and managing the slack line.   There are times when a faster reel would be a big benefit, but I have found for me a little slower reel is more comfortable. 

About $350. Most reels are cheaper when purchased from Japan; especially with the Yen in a pretty good spot.

Not bad for the upgrades mentioned. That's a fair price

I don't believe in a reel that's made being too fast for frog fishing.  I'm yet to feel a high speed reel that has no power or lacks power, I think that may be something that has changed with recent technology as far as what we actually feel or what a reel does when actually performing.  I know reels are still labeled as "high power" with low gear ratios, but I am just on the side that says a reel doesn't really lock up or lack power anymore just because it's higher gearing. Just personal opinion and personal "feel".

Thats what chris lane said he uses for frogging.

Not sure why a reel's gear ratio would be too weak due to gear ratio…I always use the rod to move the fish, not the reel.

I can't think of anything I would need to use a reel with a gear ratio higher than 7.6:1 or 8:1. I don't know what the big deal is about the rocket. Get a premier or stx

When a bass is trying it's best to wrap itself in weeds, I'm guessing a high speed reel would be beneficial but I'm just guessing since the highest gear ratio I own is a 6:3:1.

Higher speed has nothing to do with what happens when you have a bass on the line - you move the bass with the rod, not the reel.  A faster reel is nice for getting your bait back in quickly, and fiing another cast off.  That's really it.  Everything else is preference.  It's also important to note that as spool diameters decrease, ratios must increase in order to maintain high IPT targets.

Never used one that fast but when I'm grinding in a good frog fish I don't want higher than 6:3 or so

Hollow bodies i like a 6.2...solid bodies i like a 7.1

Higher speed has nothing to do with what happens when you have a bass on the line - you move the bass with the rod, not the reel.  A faster reel is nice for getting your bait back in quickly, and fiing another cast off.  That's really it.  Everything else is preference.  It's also important to note that as spool diameters decrease, ratios must increase in order to maintain high IPT targets.

Won't it pick up slack and get the fish back faster when you reel in too?