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Rod Reel Selection And Line # For Throwing Weightless Worms And Very Light Baits

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I'm looking for a set-up to throw very light weight stuff from weightless worms to very light baits. Right now I have two older spinning reels I use for this but I thinking my problem is I have 12# mono spooled on them. I thinking maybe 8# may get my cast out a little more. Not sure on the rod lenghts or actions. If quess what I'm looking for here is a set-up and see if I can match what I got to it. Or upgrade to something better later on and turn these old rods and reels into catfish rods.

 

 

I have a Falcon Cara micro in the finesse jig, with a Curado 50E and 8 lbs Invizx. I cast 3" Senkos with this and it does fine. This is my favorite combo by far.

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The simple test is go with Trilene 8 lb mono and see how that works for you.

After determining what you like, then fine tune your selection of rod/ reel / line within your budget.

Tom

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As far as I am concerned a spinning rod with micro guides is NOT the way to go if looking for distance.  I was severely disappointed with the one micro spinning rod I tried.  I tried 3 different reels on it with 8# mono and 10# braid.  Took it back for a regular guide rod of the same model.  Guides on that model were smaller than what I am use to on my old rods.  Took it back too.

 

How light is very light?  Casting with a rod that won't load with the weight you are using is an exercise in frustration.

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1/4oz or less I guess. The lightest would be just a wrom hook and worm.

As far as I am concerned a spinning rod with micro guides is NOT the way to go if looking for distance.  I was severely disappointed with the one micro spinning rod I tried.  I tried 3 different reels on it with 8# mono and 10# braid.  Took it back for a regular guide rod of the same model.  Guides on that model were smaller than what I am use to on my old rods.  Took it back too.

 

How light is very light?  Casting with a rod that won't load with the weight you are using is an exercise in frustration.

The disappointing results are due to the poor application of the guides, not the guides themselves. A spinning rod of appropriate power with a quality reduction guide train and micro runners spooled with braid or light, supple mono is the way to go for raw casting distance. A "weightless" worm, if salted like a senko/Dinger etc is actually fairly heavy so a M/F rod should work fine. 12# is too heavy on a spinning setup imo. 10#max and 8#< is ideal. I run 15-20# braid on most bass spinning rods. Also be sure the spool is filled to the correct level, just below the beveled lip on the spool. A 2500 size reel is perfect for all around bass fishing. 

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I wouldn't be a bit afraid of throwing #4 or #6 Yozuri Hybrid... Of course it may be that a softer line may also be favorable to you.

Use a proper Rod.... Also 12, is just not the deal for such light work. I do use 12 Ande on my penn 5500 w/ smoothie drag...

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The rods I have, have got the big guides compaired to my baitcasting rods. I only spooled them up with 12# cause that was what I had at the time. I just started back fishing after a 20 year brake. Most the rods and reels I have are from the late 80's. They where middle of the road stuff back then. I'm going to have them all cleaned and lubed up by a local shop during hunting season. I do think I'm going to re spool the two spinning rigs with 8# line and see how they act.

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The cheapest way to know is changing the line, my recomendation is 6 lb test Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

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Tell me the good point of Yo-Zuri Hybrid line. I've never seen any at my local shops or Wally world. But I bet the Bass pro up the road has some. The price looks good cheaper than triline or stren.

Right now I use a 7' ml for drop shots and weightless trick worms. I have a pflueger size 30 (I think) on it spooled with 6lb flouro no complaints here.

I'd get a M/F or M/MF. For the line I'd switch up to either 4lb or 6lb, unless of course you prefer braid. In that case, 15lb or 20lb. I think with that setup you'll be good to go until you decide to upgrade.

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Tell me the good point of Yo-Zuri Hybrid line. I've never seen any at my local shops or Wally world. But I bet the Bass pro up the road has some. The price looks good cheaper than triline or stren.

 

The advantages of Hybrid are that

 

it´s not nylon nor FC, it´s both,

it has about the same diameter of either lines but much much stronger

handles well

has ridiculous strength for the test ( 6 lbs will break at twice as much )

it´s "cheap"

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It's my Favorite Line ( Yo ) Raul said it so I don't need to re- iterate .... Pline CXX is a great line too, for a baitcaster, I find the 4 to 6 to be subpar to Yozuri in the same line rating... They,..YO, also have a soft line available , I don't use it.. Been using Hybrid for quite a long time.

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#6 yozuri or #10 braid will do you fine.

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