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I'm piggybacking this post off of the one on line for a new px r.  Why do so many people like it vs braid/fluoro/mono?  I was all set to try fluoro on my pxl r this year, but now I'm wondering what I'm missing.  Up to this point I've used braid w/leader. 

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It handles like mono but has low stretch and good abrasion resistance like fluro

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I been using it for a looong time, hybrid is no problem for me, it's way better in rocks than most carbon lines.. Reasonable in price, and finally I like it!

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It handles like mono but has low stretch and good abrasion resistance like fluro

^^ This ^^  Plus the fluoro coating may help decrease line visibility.

 

I use co-polymer and hybrid for most applications, and only use straight fluoro and braid for specific techniques such as braid for flipping/pitching and frogging, and fluoro for Senkos or light-line finesse techniques.

 

I know a lot of people like fluoro for crankbaits, but since I usually crank in rocky areas, I find copolymer has better abrasion resistance.

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I use braid only in certain circumstances.....throwing into slop being one, and a Daiwa 1500 size spinning reel so I can get sufficient amount of line on it being another.  I had thought to go to braid on all my spinning reels, but like how mono casts better.  Reading through TTs fluorocarbon tests had me staying away from fluoro for its poor knot strength.  Also because of its memory as stated by others.  I did find the one time I had to break a cheap 10# fluoro line that knot strength was no longer a worry of mine.  The cheap 10# fluoro handles surprisingly well while the higher test AbrazX (12# I think) that came with one of my latest purchases confirms its memory problems with some.

 

I already have a couple copolymer lines to try, but given the above poster's opinions, I am going to give several others a try as well.

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P-line Cxx. Great price and great strength to diameter ratio.

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I like some copoly because they're very limp and have good knot strength. Not all copolymers are the same thing though. Some people seem to think that it means a mono that has been coated or mixed with fluorocarbon, but that's not always the case. Some lines, like Defier, are 100% nylon, but it's still a copolymer, because it's a blend of different nylons. There are others with similar formulas. The fluoro-coated stuff, like Fluoroclear, is slightly different and has to be treated differently. The lines with a fluoro-coating, don't have the same knot strength. You have to wet the knot well, just like fluoro, or risk weakening the knot. I would just make sure you find out what kind of makeup the line has, because that has a major affect on manageability, memory, and knots (the flouro-nylon mixes aren't as limp as nylon-nylon mixes). Also, keep an eye on line diameters. Some are touted as being "extra strong," but when you look at the diameter, they're much thicker than other lines of the same lb rating; are they really strong, or is it just thicker line labeled lower?

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I like Silver Thread coploymer on my spinning reels. It's limp, thin, and never seems to coil. It casts a mile.

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I like to think of copoly as a "do-it-almost-all" line.

 

Like an SUV of fishing lines. Can go anywhere, do

anything.

 

But...I use it as a leader attached to braided mainline.

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Cxx is awesome for cranking. It is super strong. I really like to use it on my squarebill rod, where I'm throwing around a lot of rocks and cover.

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Copolymer lines are inexpensive, so try a few and see what you think: P-Line CXX, Yo-Zuri Hybrid and Izorline.

 

 

 

 

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I feel like the benefits are minimal, if any, over the copoly I use, especially for double the costs. I use mainly PLine Floroclear and have experimented with CXX and I have a reel spooled with Voltage right now. I haven't had any issues with breakage or knot strength. If you wet your knot like you should, retie as appropriate, and respool as needed, you shouldn't have a problem. But those rules apply to flourocarbon as well.

It's a cost-benefit choice for me.

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^^ ditto. I can't stand the stretch of mono. And I haven't seen any real world advantages TO ME of flouro. So I will stay with my decade+ love of yozuri hybrid because I have no reason to want anything else. :)

Well. ... except braid when flipping mats and frogging.

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P-line Cxx. Great price and great strength to diameter ratio.

Not for a PX-R, Yo Zuri Hybrid 6 lb test for that reel is just friggin AWSOM !!!

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I'm piggybacking this post off of the one on line for a new px r.  Why do so many people like it vs braid/fluoro/mono?  I was all set to try fluoro on my pxl r this year, but now I'm wondering what I'm missing.  Up to this point I've used braid w/leader. 

 

Because it's priced cheap and very forgiving. Use it or mono as you'd like depending on brand or properties, but it's not a substitute for braid or fluoro in applications where the unique properties of those two line types are considered critical. 

 

-T9

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I use it on my swimbait and cranking rods. I've found it casts very nicely, but has less memory issues. Kind of like the best of fluoro and mono, without all the issues. And it's usually cheap to boot!

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If no one minds, I have a brief tangential question: Why not copoly? When wouldn't you use coply (don't say frogging on the BigO)? What are it's main ddisadvantags?

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As mostly braid guy I do have some setups with mono and fluoro (spooks use mono and my plastics use fluoro). I am also looking at getting a spool of either yozuri or pline cxx. My question along the same line as above is would you work a spook with copoly?

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Copolymer lines are inexpensive, so try a few and see what you think: P-Line CXX, Yo-Zuri Hybrid and Izorline.

These 3 are probably to top dogs of copolymer and I have used them all. I need to try some sunline this year but regardless you can't go wrong with the above 3. They are all slightly different though so take your pick. Hybrid is the most forgiving and CXX is the least with Izorline in the middle somewhere.

Personally I am a CXX guy but am not above fishing hybrid of izor.

:xmas-115:

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As mostly braid guy I do have some setups with mono and fluoro (spooks use mono and my plastics use fluoro). I am also looking at getting a spool of either yozuri or pline cxx. My question along the same line as above is would you work a spook with copoly?

You can fishing anything you want with copoly. I don't have a rod set up with mono for spooks ect. That's pointless when copoly does is just as we'll maybe better.

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As mostly braid guy I do have some setups with mono and fluoro (spooks use mono and my plastics use fluoro). I am also looking at getting a spool of either yozuri or pline cxx. My question along the same line as above is would you work a spook with copoly?

95% of the time I am fishing inshore, I'm using 15# yozuri ultra soft on a curado 200. Well over half the time I'm out there, all year long, I am throwing a bone spook Jr or a bone spook one knocker. Caught a 23" red yesterday and invited it home for dinner, doing exactly that.

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I have a 7'3" H/F rod that is spooled with heavy braid. I love my P-Line Floroclear but sometimes the only thing that's appropriate is braid.

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