If thinness were the reason to use this knot, I could buy that.  But many people have stated hey have no problem with their present knot.  If the reason is more strength that's something a bit hard for me to understand.  If a small fish is hooked, little or no line is stripped out, not need for a super duper knot.  If it's a very large fish that does pull out line, let it do just that as that's what the drag is for.  When a fish pulls out line tension is reduced on the knot, again a super duper knot isn't needed.

One might make a case using this knot for some beefy fish (I still wouldn't use it), for bass fishing I hardly see the need.  How many people really get broke off at the connection knot?  

 How many people really get broke off at the connection knot?

Judging by the number of these threads, enough that it's a more relevant issue than you think.

Someone is always looking for the more perfect knot, everything is improved eventually...

Judging by the number of these threads, enough that it's a more relevant issue than you think.

I see a lot more posts of people saying how much they love their knot, both diameter and strength.   There are plenty of people that tie good knots that don't fail.

I'm not sure I understand your point?

It doesn't seem any more time consuming than an Alberto.

It seems that way to me... I'd like to think i can tie an alberto knot in 20-30 seconds. And as you stated previously i agree that every knot neexs to be your best knot. But that one never gives me any trouble. San diego jam and even the palomar with fluorocarbon always takes me awhile to make sure it good.

Well, it might bear out that this takes a long time, if I can't get it right first try, lol. I can't tie a good Alberto in 30 secs, so maybe that's my issue too.

What have y'all been securing the braid to when trying to tie the FG knot?

It seems that way to me... I'd like to think i can tie an alberto knot in 20-30 seconds. And as you stated previously i agree that every knot neexs to be your best knot. But that one never gives me any trouble. San diego jam and even the palomar with fluorocarbon always takes me awhile to make sure it good.

 

 

See that's the beauty of having so many options.  I can spin up a palomar or double palo for braid really quickly but the Alberto takes me what feels like forever and I have a harder time the finer the lines- and heaven forbid I screw it up...  This feels like it ties so easily.  I know I can figure it out.  That's what's particularly appealing to me- just the ease of the side to side loops under tension.  It makes sense in my head, I just need the physical part to come together and build up some hand/eye/muscle memory.  Also I feel like the subject matter is of importance too- it looks like the guy in the video is using ~#20lb PP and #15ish flouro or something.  That braid is tiiiiiny in relation to the leader and I think that is going to matter.  I don't know if you can get results like that with #50 braid and #10 flouro, but time and practice will tell.  I'm going to give it some tries with #20 to #12 and see how it does.             

On 3/20/2015 at 10:32 AM, Catch and Grease said:

What have y'all been securing the braid to when trying to tie the FG knot?

The rod and reel.

The rod and reel.

Hmm, I figured, but he acted like you needed it pretty tight. I knew it would sound dumb but I wasn't sure, I'm gonna sit down and try to learn it today.

Actually, just barely taught works best. Too much tension and you link the leader.

But don't quote me - I still can't get it to hold every time, lol.

Out of curiosity how short of a tag end do y'all put on your Alberto knots? I have been trimming mine down to about 1/16 of an inch to minimize the knot catching on the guides.

As close as possible. You can put a couple half hitches to smooth the transition.

As close as possible. You can put a couple half hitches to smooth the transition.

What do you mean smooth the transition?

The half hitches make a ramp up to the thicker part of the knot. After some fishing, it gets burnished and flows smoother.

The half hitches make a ramp up to the thicker part of the knot. After some fishing, it gets burnished and flows smoother.

Oh okay, I think I get what your saying..... I think lol

It isn't necessary.

I had a 7up/7back alberto fail on me this weekend.  Sent the jig across the lake and got the worst braid backlash I've ever had.  Examining what was left, it appears that the leader tag actually pulled through after a few hours of jigging, vice breaking.  I did use yo-zuri vice fluoro and I now recall that copoly can have creasing/breaking issues when 'folded'.  So I suppose its possible that hybrid isn't the best choice for leaders, but for now, I'm still doubting the knot more than the hybrid.

Never had any issue with the knot, Hybrid, or CXX - outside of the usual knot tier ones.  Sometimes I test a knot, and it isn't good. SOmetimes the knot wears out from abrasion.