Why do a lot of people use moderate fast for flipping? It seems like with the short amount of line out and the heavy cover you would want a fast action so you can hook set quicker and get the bass out sooner?

Does using moderate fast rods while flipping actually get you better hook sets, or is it a different reason?

Its more about the flip than the hookset imo

I like a softer rod whn around docks because it helps me get my bait up and under those docks. The rod does more of the work than i do on the flip

It's real easy to high-stick on a short line and break a tip if it's really fast. That's not as much of a concern in the heaviest punch rods which I put on a slightly slower blank.  With Mod/Fast you can lay into them and get them coming up all in one motion. A fast action in a rod this heavy to too much of a broom stick. 

I would venture to guess that with a lot of guys using braid with no stretch, some give in the rod is beneficial in not tearing he hook out of the fish's mouth.

When in close, in heavy cover I want a stout rod with a moderate action. It gives me power to keep serious pressure on the fish with more of the rod engaged. This allows for a little more cushion on a short line. I use an XFast medium power in more open water and a Fast medium heavy in moderate cover. It is by trial and error that I have found what works best for me.

Yeah it still seems like some people still tend to like broomsticks though, I flipped with a guy all day Saturday and he was using a really fast action, and the rod he let me use was also a pretty fast action.

I didn't get to catch anything but he caught 3...

I've been looking into getting a rod and reel for flipping and was debating on a fast vs moderate fast action.

Does anyone get away with fishing frogs on a moderate fast, because I would also like do a little frogging on the rod I choose. (Heavy cover frogging)

Simple physics, you are spreading the load of a heavy, lift and separate hookset across the entire blank, not just the tip. It also helps slingshot the fish up out of cover. Moderate does not mean soft. Power refers to that aspect.

Simple physics, you are spreading the load of a heavy, lift and separate hookset across the entire blank, not just the tip. It also helps slingshot the fish up out of cover. Moderate does not mean soft. Power refers to that aspect.

What that guy said.

I prefer a moderate tapered rod for heavy grass flipping. I've notice that my catch rate is much better with them than a fast rod.

Flipping on Toldeo Bend is 12-18' of water with grass...lots of grass!

I prefer a medium heavy extra fast

I use a 7 1/2 ft med fast action rod for both flippin & froggin. My reason for doing so is what DVT had to say.

My old Castaway HG-40 Flippin Stick is heavy, slow.

I would venture to guess that with a lot of guys using braid with no stretch, some give in the rod is beneficial in not tearing he hook out of the fish's mouth.

 

 

I agree with this point of view. It seems that this action works best when using braid while a faster action is better when using fluorocarbon.

I have a Powell 735 Mag Heavy Extra Fast, great rod, has a little bit of tip for a broom stick which is really nice