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Is the difference in action between the different lucky craft jerkbaits (i.e. flash pointer, pointer minnow, flash minnow 115mr, lightning pointer, etc.) that much, or is it mostly slightly different profiles?  Which one is the best overall jerkbait?  The only one I have tried is the pointer minnow and I loved it, but I lost that so I am looking to buy one or two more now.

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Yes, they're very different even though the differences may look subtle in the water. Some run deeper than others, others have a hard cutting action, some have more of a roll, and others just turn side to side and don't do much. Different actions catch fish better at different times unfortunately. 

If I could only have one, it would be a Slender Pointer 97MR. 

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7 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Yes, they're very different even though the differences may look subtle in the water. Some run deeper than others, others have a hard cutting action, some have more of a roll, and others just turn side to side and don't do much. Different actions catch fish better at different times unfortunately. 

If I could only have one, it would be a Slender Pointer 97MR. 

Thanks!  Is the slender pointer still your favorite even if the largemouth are feeding on dying shad?

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1 minute ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Thanks!  Is the slender pointer still your favorite even if the largemouth are feeding on dying shad?

The Slender Pointer is a shallower running bait with a pretty aggressive cut, but it can be given very light twitches and almost kept in place, which is why it's my favorite if I can only have one.

Dying shad usually mean colder water, which usually means I want a bait with less aggressive action and often something larger. In that situation, I'll usually opt for a 100 pointer or 115 Flash Pointer.  

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5 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:
5 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

The Slender Pointer is a shallower running bait with a pretty aggressive cut, but it can be given very light twitches and almost kept in place, which is why it's my favorite if I can only have one.

Dying shad usually mean colder water, which usually means I want a bait with less aggressive action and often something larger. In that situation, I'll usually opt for a 100 pointer or 115 Flash Pointer.  

 

Thanks for the help!  Do you think the rcstx jerkbait is a very good knock off of the vision 110?  Could it be a decent substitute for a flash pointer?

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3 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Thanks for the help!  Do you think the rcstx jerkbait is a very good knock off of the vision 110?  Could it be a decent substitute for a flash pointer?

As much as I like & have success with LC baits - the newer SK KVD Jerkbait has been Very Impressive all season.  Both the Standard (3 hook) and the Deep models are making me into a believer.  Price is fairly reasonable as well.

A-Jay

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1 hour ago, A-Jay said:

As much as I like & have success with LC baits - the newer SK KVD Jerkbait has been Very Impressive all season.  Both the Standard (3 hook) and the Deep models are making me into a believer.  Price is fairly reasonable as well.

A-Jay

agreed now shhh dont let the cat out of the bag:D

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7 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Thanks for the help!  Do you think the rcstx jerkbait is a very good knock off of the vision 110?  Could it be a decent substitute for a flash pointer?

The RC STX is another one of my favorite jerkbaits. Unfortunately, they seem to have changed the finishes on them recently to a much cheaper look. They still work, but they have more of a matte finish now instead of the glossy finish they used to have. I like them in colder water because they don't have as much action as most of the LC baits. I've gotten away from them since I started getting custom painted 110 blanks from a local guy that does an excellent job and I get whatever color I want for just a buck or two more than the RC STX, still way cheaper than a MB. 

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On ‎8‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 8:47 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

The Slender Pointer is a shallower running bait with a pretty aggressive cut, but it can be given very light twitches and almost kept in place, which is why it's my favorite if I can only have one.

Dying shad usually mean colder water, which usually means I want a bait with less aggressive action and often something larger. In that situation, I'll usually opt for a 100 pointer or 115 Flash Pointer.  

Sorry to bother you again.  Is the slender pointer still your favorite on lakes that don't have any smallmouth to speak of?  The description says it was designed for smallmouth but I doubt it really matters.

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26 minutes ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Sorry to bother you again.  Is the slender pointer still your favorite on lakes that don't have any smallmouth to speak of?  The description says it was designed for smallmouth but I doubt it really matters.

Yeah, it's still one of my favorites for largemouth too.

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On ‎8‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 5:45 PM, A-Jay said:

As much as I like & have success with LC baits - the newer SK KVD Jerkbait has been Very Impressive all season.  Both the Standard (3 hook) and the Deep models are making me into a believer.  Price is fairly reasonable as well.

A-Jay

Is the action on the kvd jerkbait very aggressive?

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4 hours ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Is the action on the kvd jerkbait very aggressive?

Please pass on your idea or description of what an aggressive action is as it relates to jerkbaits, then I could tell you if this bait is like that or not.

I will say that the KVD bait started taking fish very early this spring (some ice was still on the lake) and continued to do so on & off all season including last week with water temps in the high 70's.  I think this one's clearly better in cold to cooler water like most baits in this category.

As most all baits have some inherent built in action, the manner, speed & pause length (if any) are all factors I'm controlling in how I work the bait.  "Aggressive" to painfully slow all work at some point.

A-Jay

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5 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Please pass on your idea or description of what an aggressive action is as it relates to jerkbaits, then I could tell you if this bait is like that or not.

Thanks for the answer!  I would describe it as a lot of side to side darting action while twitching/jerking it (like an x-rap), while less aggressive jerkbaits dart less and don't partially turn around on a hard jerk (like an RCSTX).

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Just now, IndianaFinesse said:

Thanks for the answer!  I would describe it as a lot of side to side darting action while twitching/jerking it (like an x-rap), while less aggressive jerkbaits dart less and don't partially turn around on a hard jerk (like an RCSTX).

OK ~ I'll say the KVD baits have a little less & somewhat slower Dart & Roll than an X-Rap (which I have but rarely use).

The KVD is quickly becoming a confidence bait for me - not quite in the "Go To" space just yet but if this fall goes like I expect, there'll be a few more in the Lund before next years Ice Out.

My advice is get one (Summer Sexy Shad) fish it in spots, at times & in conditions that you'd routinely reach for a jerkbait.  You'll see what I mean.

A-Jay

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10 hours ago, A-Jay said:

,OK ~ I'll say the KVD baits have a little less & somewhat slower Dart & Roll than an X-Rap (which I have but rarely use).

The KVD is quickly becoming a confidence bait for me - not quite in the "Go To" space just yet but if this fall goes like I expect, there'll be a few more in the Lund before next years Ice Out.

My advice is get one (Summer Sexy Shad) fish it in spots, at times & in conditions that you'd routinely reach for a jerkbait.  You'll see what I mean.

A-Jay

Thanks for the help!  I will definitely pick one up with this weekends labor day sale, along with a slender pointer.

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6 minutes ago, IndianaFinesse said:

Thanks for the help!  I will definitely pick one up with this weekends labor day sale.

You're Welcome

btw -change out the stock trebles  . . .size 4

A-Jay

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On 8/7/2016 at 1:42 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

If I could only have one, it would be a Slender Pointer 97MR. 

THIS!

On 8/7/2016 at 8:47 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

The Slender Pointer is a shallower running bait with a pretty aggressive cut, but it can be given very light twitches and almost kept in place, which is why it's my favorite if I can only have one.

Dying shad usually mean colder water, which usually means I want a bait with less aggressive action and often something larger. In that situation, I'll usually opt for a 100 pointer or 115 Flash Pointer.  

Another option for colder water is to upsize the slender pointer 97MR to a 115MR, which is a slow-sinking presentation.  I've caught both LM and SM giants on the MR series. Wait, I mean the MR series is terrible, fish hate it.  Buy something else please :lol:

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INFinesse, your setup plays a role in the aggression of a ripbait too.  If you're looking for really aggressive movements, remove the split ring from the lure and tie the lure on using a loop knot. I use 30# braid to a 12# FC leader with this setup.  Start and finish the jerk on slack line too. 

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57 minutes ago, BigBassLoveSenkos said:

INFinesse, your setup plays a role in the aggression of a ripbait too.  If you're looking for really aggressive movements, remove the split ring from the lure and tie the lure on using a loop knot. I use 30# braid to a 12# FC leader with this setup.  Start and finish the jerk on slack line too. 

Thanks, i'll have to try using a loop knot next time I want a more aggressive action on a jerkbait.  I usually throw jerkbaits on a medium powered fast action rod spooled with ten pound braid and a short ten to twelve pound leader.

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I like using a fast action rod and mono to make my jerks have more movement. There are lots of differences between the lucky craft lineup, some are floating, some are suspending, some are slow sinking, some have flat sides, and some move more than others. Generally the various sizes of pointer, slender pointer, flash minnow, and flash pointer are what I use most. The pointer dd,  staysee, and bey shad if I want to fish a little deeper. Every lucky craft I have used was a quality bait, but some like the pointer sp catch more for me than some like the live pointer series

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The Pointer 78 Deep Diver is a gravel pit bass wrecking machine here in central Indiana from early spring to late summer

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