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Has anyone else had issues with the wire keeper coming off? I had 3 hooks lose the keeper today, and looking at one of them it doesn't look like the solder or weld penetrated the hook at all? Just wondering if it's just me or if maybe it's a quality control issue?

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I haven't, but only because I break that keeper off on purpose.  I was having an issue where the ZMan elasticel baits would bunch up past the keeper, towards the head of the jig.  Kind of a reverse problem of the bait sliding down the hook.

My solution is to bust off the keeper and super glue the head of the bait to the jig.

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6 minutes ago, OCdockskipper said:

I haven't, but only because I break that keeper off on purpose.  I was having an issue where the ZMan elasticel baits would bunch up past the keeper, towards the head of the jig.  Kind of a reverse problem of the bait sliding down the hook.

My solution is to bust off the keeper and super glue the head of the bait to the jig.

Well that's a nice solution, and it should save the ones the keeper broke off of. Thank you. 

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Every one I've fished falls off eventually. Would have been better to add a separate wire that ran into the lead head mold, like VMC Mooneyes or similar. Have never had one of them fail. I like them (wire keepers) because I don't like dealing with the glue, but overall glue does hold best, but you lose convenience. I just save the ones where the keeper has come off to use later with glue.

-T9

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Mine break if i'm not careful or even if I am careful trying to get one of those baits off the hook. I have the same issues as OCdockskipper as well, it's a love hate thing. I haven't had any break outside of messing with the plastic that always gets stuck on the keeper.

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All of mine broke off eventually, which is unfortuanate because they worked well until they broke (I always just glued them on afterwards, but it's a lot easier to not have to mess with super glue).  This and the fact that they cost a dollar a piece are the two main reasons I pour all of my ned rig jigs myself.  I would highly recommend pouring you own, you can choose the size and style of hook that you want.  My pouring equipment literally paid for itself in around five months. 

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Keeping in mind that the grub material won't go over a cast-in grub "keeper", and that the success of the rig depends on retaining the buoyancy of the grub/jig, the jig wire has to be light.  And the keeper has to be wire.  And the wire may break off.  Sounds to me like dockskipper has the solution for either starting from new or using the jigs that have had the keeper break off.  Great solution.

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When fishing with plastics I've found that super glue is my best friend. Just pick the gel kind. 

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I've had them break off before, actually pretty often. Like mentioned above I glue mine to the hook when I first use them - the keeper doesn't seem to break off as much since the bait isn't being pulled up as much on the hook shank

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I fought the super glue idea for a while- d**n I'm stubborn. Much easier and less time messing with fixing the bait. 

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Looks like I'm going to have to go get some super glue! Mine were brand new hooks that I was having issues with, I just wondered if anyone else had experienced that with new hooks. Thanks guys!

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It happens to me. I just keep fishing it after nose hooking the bait. It actually gives it more action. Bass don't care. It just looks like a worm with a skinny neck and big head. I'll loose it eventually anyway...

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Frosty, I have had good luck with this inexpensive super glue from Home Depot http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-0-07-fl-oz-Liquid-Super-Glue-4-Pack-1932546/205474002 .  Under $2 for a 4 pack.  It holds up in water real well, I not only use it for Ned rigs, but for a little extra protection on my braid to fluorocarbon knots. The tubes are small enough to keep one handy and the rest stored away.  I tend to get about 75% of the glue out of it before I inadvertently crush it or the tip gets too glued together, but at 50 cents a bottle, that doesn't bother me.

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They are SO easy to replace, or add to other jig heads.

Use fly-tying thread on a bobbin. Whip finish. Nail polish. Done.

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16 hours ago, Gundog said:

When fishing with plastics I've found that super glue is my best friend. Just pick the gel kind. 

Even with the wire keeper I use the gel super glue on the part where the bait rests against the jighead. Those TRD's don't go anywhere after that.

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