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I was wondering what is a mag heavy? I have heard it is two powers higher than a heavy power. Is that true? And would a mag heavy be to heavy for punching and frogging?

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do you have an example?

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Just look at the lure weight and action. Dont pay attention to the power too much. For punching i like 3/4- 2oz. For frogging i like 1/2 - 1 1/2

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I've just seen heavy then mag heavy. Dobyn's for example has 704 (heavy) and 705 (mag heavy). BUT it's a relative, there is not market standard for these ratings. I think Dobyn's titles their rods a bit heavier than they are. 

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1 hour ago, Robert Riley said:

I've just seen heavy then mag heavy. Dobyn's for example has 704 (heavy) and 705 (mag heavy). BUT it's a relative, there is not market standard for these ratings. I think Dobyn's titles their rods a bit heavier than they are. 

Yeah that's what I also heard. Thanks 

1 hour ago, d-camarena said:

Just look at the lure weight and action. Dont pay attention to the power too much. For punching i like 3/4- 2oz. For frogging i like 1/2 - 1 1/2

Never thought of that before but makes total sense I have always just looked at the power, action, and length. Great info 

1 hour ago, Scarborough817 said:

do you have an example?

The dobyns fury 735 mag heavy 

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There are no standards in the industry. The descriptive terms are arbitrary and subjective. Only the person/company using the term can define it. 

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I'd be more skeptical of the lure weight range than the rating. Im not sure how much I would trust 1.5-2oz on a 735. 

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20 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Sounds like a pool cue. 

Haha but I heard there power are usually a power lower than listed for example a heavy is like a medium heavy etc.

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TFO lists their Mag heavy rod as being two power above the listing , for example a Mag heavy would be like a XX heavy

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Rod companies like Dobyns, G.Loomis that use numbered power ratings from 1 to 6 for bass rods are a little closer in power verses letter ratings L to H. Becuase there isn't any objective standard and application specific rods differ from spinning and casting general use rods with a different set of numbers or letters.

Numbers vs Letters;

1 = L, light.

2, = ML, medium light.

3 = M, medium.

4 = MH, medium heavy.

5 = H, heavy.

6 = XH, extra heavy.

Some rod makers use + or mag or magnum to add 1/2 power to number rating; 5+ or 5 1/2 power = mag H.

Action is different from power, it indicated how the rod bends from tip down.

At one point in time numbers equaled the maximum dead weight in pounds the rod could lift before bottoming out, 3 = 3 lbs dead weight. Today it's all relative to the users touch and feel, but it's still a good rating system to help decide which rod to use.

Hope this helps and doesn't add to the confusion.

Tom

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1 hour ago, WRB said:

Rod companies like Dobyns, G.Loomis that use numbered power ratings from 1 to 6 for bass rods are a little closer in power verses letter ratings L to H. Becuase there isn't any objective standard and application specific rods differ from spinning and casting general use rods with a different set of numbers or letters.

Numbers vs Letters;

1 = L, light.

2, = ML, medium light.

3 = M, medium.

4 = MH, medium heavy.

5 = H, heavy.

6 = XH, extra heavy.

Some rod makers use + or mag or magnum to add 1/2 power to number rating; 5+ or 5 1/2 power = mag H.

Action is different from power, it indicated how the rod bends from tip down.

At one point in time numbers equaled the maximum dead weight in pounds the rod could lift before bottoming out, 3 = 3 lbs dead weight. Today it's all relative to the users touch and feel, but it's still a good rating system to help decide which rod to use.

Hope this helps and doesn't add to the confusion.

Tom

Well I am talking about the dobyns fury rod mag heavy 7'3" so what I got from this is that a dobyns mag heavy is in between a heavy and Xheavy(5 1/2)

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If you are interested in any of the Dobyns rods give the guys at Dobyns a call. Twice I have called and gotten really great info. If you call you may even get lucky to speak with Gary himself as I did once. There is another web board like this one run by a guy he sponsors. It has a Dobyns forum on it. The owner answers question about specific models but frequently so does Gary himself. My friend Kris ( also a member of both boards) has had his questions answered by Gary several times. It was great as he was thinking of getting a flipping Pitching rod. not only did he get hia question answered he got a bit of history of how the rod was designed. He bought the Fury FR765 Flip and I got to cast it the other day. That thing is sweet!

If you read "mag heavy" and both the suggested lure weights and lure types it gives a good idea how the rod will react. 

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