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I’ve been looking into getting a swimbait rod recently. The most weight I’ll be throwing will probably be 2 1/2 ounces. I’ve been eyeing the Daiwa Dx or the Savage Gear Browser. I have no experience buying a rod from either of these companies. Also, I would like to know if there is a rod that can double as a jig/swimbait rod. Preferably, 3/8 - 2 1/2 or something along those lines. Would a standard MH/F rod be able to throw a 2 ounce swimbait or am I better off getting a dedicated swimbait rod? 

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I've never used either rod, but I follow Karl on YT under 'Keepin It Reel Fishing', he grabbed the Browser immediately when it came out. Here's a clip of him using it (starts at 14:47):

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Dangerfield said:

I've never used either rod, but I follow Karl on YT under 'Keepin It Reel Fishing', he grabbed the Browser immediately when it came out. Here's a clip of him using it (starts at 14:47):

 

 

I follow his YouTube channel also. I like the look and the price of the Browser but I don’t know if it will be too heavy of an action for jigs.

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The st croix avid 74h is good for baits up to 2 oz and doubles as a great frog rod.  Its my favorite for fishing the 168 s waiver and does just fine with the hard gills.  I would not go 2.5 oz if you plan on superman casting but i have not a single issue slinging the swaiver to the spool empty point on a zillion with 12 or 15 lb line.

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Depends if you want a rod that is a compromise that ends up being a poor swimbait and jig rod.

Make up your mind.

Tom

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14 hours ago, Angry John said:

The st croix avid 74h is good for baits up to 2 oz and doubles as a great frog rod.  Its my favorite for fishing the 168 s waiver and does just fine with the hard gills.  I would not go 2.5 oz if you plan on superman casting but i have not a single issue slinging the swaiver to the spool empty point on a zillion with 12 or 15 lb line.

You’re right. Maybe not up to 2.5. I’m just dipping my toes into swimbait fishing and trying to get used to heavier baits. I already have a swaver 168, a savage gear 3D bluegill, and a Jackall Gantarel. I’m thinking of getting a islide 135 also. What brand line do you use? And you SHOULD fish swimbaits on Fluoro right?

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26 minutes ago, SnailsYeast said:

You’re right. Maybe not up to 2.5. I’m just dipping my toes into swimbait fishing and trying to get used to heavier baits. I already have a swaver 168, a savage gear 3D bluegill, and a Jackall Gantarel. I’m thinking of getting a islide 135 also. What brand line do you use? And you SHOULD fish swimbaits on Fluoro right?

Depending in the length of rod desired you could try a 8' heavy daiwa fuego. Can be found under 70 dollars on ebay and Wal-Mart.com. or maybe even a muskie rod from bass pro or cabelas. When/if I start throwing big baits it will be on 20lb p-line cxx or 20lb big game. I dont see any advantage in fluorocarbon when fishing big baits. You'll get much better abrasion resistance, knot strength, amd shock strength in the 2 lines I mentioned than most fluoros imo.

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2 hours ago, CroakHunter said:

You'll get much better abrasion resistance, knot strength, amd shock strength in the 2 lines I mentioned than most fluoros imo.

and it'll be hella cheaper

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3 hours ago, CroakHunter said:

Depending in the length of rod desired you could try a 8' heavy daiwa fuego. Can be found under 70 dollars on ebay and Wal-Mart.com. or maybe even a muskie rod from bass pro or cabelas. When/if I start throwing big baits it will be on 20lb p-line cxx or 20lb big game. I dont see any advantage in fluorocarbon when fishing big baits. You'll get much better abrasion resistance, knot strength, amd shock strength in the 2 lines I mentioned than most fluoros imo.

Thank you for the suggestions. But for cxx I’ve heard that you would need a bigger reel to hold the line because it’s thicker or some thing like that. Is this true?

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3 hours ago, SnailsYeast said:

Thank you for the suggestions. But for cxx I’ve heard that you would need a bigger reel to hold the line because it’s thicker or some thing like that. Is this true?

Yes its thick. But I'd want a 200 size or bigger casting reel for swimbaits anyway. 

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On 10/31/2018 at 11:58 AM, SnailsYeast said:

Would a standard MH/F rod be able to throw a 2 ounce swimbait or am I better off getting a dedicated swimbait rod? 

Unfortunately no, if you start getting into the 2+ ounce range I'd look at dedicated rods for swimbaits. What type do you plan on fishing, the rod you want for jig hook baits like hudd 68's is gonna probably be a bit different than one that's ideal for treble hook baits. 

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14 hours ago, SnailsYeast said:

You’re right. Maybe not up to 2.5. I’m just dipping my toes into swimbait fishing and trying to get used to heavier baits. I already have a swaver 168, a savage gear 3D bluegill, and a Jackall Gantarel. I’m thinking of getting a islide 135 also. What brand line do you use? And you SHOULD fish swimbaits on Fluoro right?

On that rod I use 12 or 15 lb yhb.  If your using a 168 in open water 12 is fine 15 will take up more spool room.  My reel on that rod is a sv103 with the slightly deeper 1016 spool.  The stock spool has the 12.

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18 hours ago, MassYak85 said:

Unfortunately no, if you start getting into the 2+ ounce range I'd look at dedicated rods for swimbaits. What type do you plan on fishing, the rod you want for jig hook baits like hudd 68's is gonna probably be a bit different than one that's ideal for treble hook baits. 

Right now I’m fishing a S-waver 168, Jackall Gantarel jr., and a savage gear 3D bluegill. I’m probably going to be getting a bbz-1 rat, iSlide 135, and a magslowl. Nothing too big just yet.

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Treble baits are a lot different than single hooks.  The power to set a jig hook is much higher.  For a hud your looking at a dobyns 807 or a full sb rod.

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19 hours ago, evilcatfish said:

Dobyns Fury 795. Great rod at a fair price

I already have one but the first two guides and the top three inches already broke in a couple months.

19 hours ago, Angry John said:

Treble baits are a lot different than single hooks.  The power to set a jig hook is much higher.  For a hud your looking at a dobyns 807 or a full sb rod.

Yea, I have all treble hook swimbaits right now.

On 11/1/2018 at 11:19 PM, Angry John said:

On that rod I use 12 or 15 lb yhb.  If your using a 168 in open water 12 is fine 15 will take up more spool room.  My reel on that rod is a sv103 with the slightly deeper 1016 spool.  The stock spool has the 12.

I don’t know if I want to go that light in line. I fish from the bank and occasionally get stuck in trees. I kind of need a heavier line so I can rip it out.

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5 hours ago, SnailsYeast said:

I don’t know if I want to go that light in line. I fish from the bank and occasionally get stuck in trees. I kind of need a heavier line so I can rip it out.

There is always a risk of loss but going higher in test means that you outclass yourself on a standard sized reel.  The zillion and a few others have a strong enough set of internals to run 2 ish oz baits and not get torn up.  The power of the rods also helps protect the line in a fish scenario but will not help in the tree situation.  There is no perfect work around other than just getting the dedicated setup.

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9 hours ago, SnailsYeast said:

I already have one but the first two guides and the top three inches already broke in a couple months.

That's pretty crazy and likely warrants a call to Gary. They have top notch customer service and will take good care of you. If you haven't soured on Dobyns the 765 FLIP would also work with those baits. Matt Allen used to rave about that rod's versatility and it was his go to large swim jig w/swimbait trailer rod for many years. 

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On 11/3/2018 at 9:37 AM, SnailsYeast said:

I already have one but the first two guides and the top three inches already broke in a couple months.

Yea, I have all treble hook swimbaits right now.

I don’t know if I want to go that light in line. I fish from the bank and occasionally get stuck in trees. I kind of need a heavier line so I can rip it out.

Contact Dobyns, even if the rod isn't covered under warrant you can go with the no hassle replacement option

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21 hours ago, evilcatfish said:

Contact Dobyns, even if the rod isn't covered under warrant you can go with the no hassle replacement option

I’ll try. Thank you.

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