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I'm planning on moving up to the envy blacks from the muse blacks. Has anyone heard anymore details other than what's on the site? What are your thoughts for this price point? 

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Not a company we are allowed to talk about on this site.  Sorry.

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14 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said:

Not a company we are allowed to talk about on this site.  Sorry.

Whatsup with that?  Has there been a bunch off bad feedback on these rods?

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Probably because they don’t sponsor but there is a lot of stuff that doesn’t appear to be a sponsored. Maybe moderator will jump in. 

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Why does the site or product name I posted show up as "another site" or as ***?
First it has nothing to do with competition. In most cases, it has something to do with the points above - site owners not abiding by the rules of the forum, or over-zealous pro-staffers spamming the forums. In some cases, however, the site owner specifically requested that we do not link to their site.

 

If your post contains ***, then that means you may not discuss that brand here.  Your post will likely be deleted, and you may get banned (see the next paragraph below).

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However, we have decided to limit the restriction on "13" for now. They seem to have stopped their aggressive

behavior towards our site. 

 

-Kent  a.k.a. roadwarrior

Global Moderator

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1 hour ago, Spankey said:

Probably because they don’t sponsor but there is a lot of stuff that doesn’t appear to be a sponsored. Maybe moderator will jump in. 

It has to do with spam.  You can actually talk about 13 Fishing, without removal.  We encourage discussion of all brands, not just site sponsors.

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13 minutes ago, J Francho said:

It has to do with spam.  You can actually talk about 13 Fishing, without removal.  We encourage discussion of all brands, not just site sponsors.

Ok cool. These type of sites can be so opinionated who knows what goes. Sometime you dont know until you get a warning. 

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3 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

Not a company we are allowed to talk about on this site.  Sorry.

not true

in regards to the rods, I personally don't like the look of the new envy black 2s, and they are very expensive. for those two reasons, I will not be purchasing any. I believe there are better options for $300. you can get your hands on Dobyns Champion Extremes at this price point if you know where to look (eBay). I have the 7'1" ML hourglass handle envy black 1, and love it. I also have a ***, and ***, along with several ***. I am a big fan of 13 fishing, but I think there are better options. Keep in mind that this com es without me ever using the rod, and who knows it could be amazing, im sure its a good rod, but id be willing to bet there are better options.

 

just my $.02

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1 hour ago, Quarry Man said:

not true

in regards to the rods, I personally don't like the look of the new envy black 2s, and they are very expensive. for those two reasons, I will not be purchasing any. I believe there are better options for $300. you can get your hands on Dobyns Champion Extremes at this price point if you know where to look (eBay). I have the 7'1" ML hourglass handle envy black 1, and love it. I also have a ***, and ***, along with several ***. I am a big fan of 13 fishing, but I think there are better options. Keep in mind that this com es without me ever using the rod, and who knows it could be amazing, im sure its a good rod, but id be willing to bet there are better options.

 

just my $.02

 

Guess the rules have eased up on this company.  It wasn't long ago that I posted "I envy you.", and it posted as "I **** you.".

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1 minute ago, new2BC4bass said:

 

Guess the rules have eased up on this company.  It wasn't long ago that I posted "I envy you.", and it posted as "I **** you.".

yeah I think the changed it recently, personally im glad they lifted the ban because I really like a lot of their stuff, and my customer service interactions have been phenomenal!

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2 hours ago, PaFrogThrower9 said:

I've got one in 7'1"MH. Haven't fished with it yet but it looks nice and feels good.

How did you get one since they are not out yet? 

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59 minutes ago, michaelsrex said:

How did you get one since they are not out yet? 

When 13 announced the new Envy Black 2's they did a giveaway on Facebook and Instagram. They gave away 13 of them and I was one of the lucky 13 chosen. I would never, ever pay $300 for a rod from any manufacturer. 

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3 hours ago, PaFrogThrower9 said:

When 13 announced the new Envy Black 2's they did a giveaway on Facebook and Instagram. They gave away 13 of them and I was one of the lucky 13 chosen. I would never, ever pay $300 for a rod from any manufacturer. 

Picture or it didn't happen lol

3 hours ago, PaFrogThrower9 said:

When 13 announced the new Envy Black 2's they did a giveaway on Facebook and Instagram. They gave away 13 of them and I was one of the lucky 13 chosen. I would never, ever pay $300 for a rod from any manufacturer. 

Can you measure the length from the reel seat curled plastic piece your hand holds to but end of the rod and post? I haven't been able to get any measurements 

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7 hours ago, michaelsrex said:

Picture or it didn't happen lol

Can you measure the length from the reel seat curled plastic piece your hand holds to but end of the rod and post? I haven't been able to get any measurements 

Ahahaha! I'll get you a pic and a measurement when I get home today.

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15 hours ago, PaFrogThrower9 said:

Ahahaha! I'll get you a pic and a measurement when I get home today.

Thank you 

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On 2/20/2019 at 10:36 PM, michaelsrex said:

Picture or it didn't happen lol

Can you measure the length from the reel seat curled plastic piece your hand holds to but end of the rod and post? I haven't been able to get any measurements 

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5 minutes ago, PaFrogThrower9 said:

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It's not letting me load the other picture. I'll try again later but it's between 12 11/16ths and 12 7/8 to the end of the butt.

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3 hours ago, PaFrogThrower9 said:

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It's not letting me load the other picture. I'll try again later but it's between 12 11/16ths and 12 7/8 to the end of the butt.

Thank you, if you loop the tape lip right passed the two inch mark what is the measurement from there to the end? That's how I usually measure because that's where your hands sits 

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2 hours ago, michaelsrex said:

Thank you, if you loop the tape lip right passed the two inch mark what is the measurement from there to the end? That's how I usually measure because that's where your hands sits 

10 1/2 inches.

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