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 I've always liked the build quality and overall performance of shimano baitcasters. I've been looking at daiwa lately and really like the look and feel of the tatula 100. I do not like the traditional magnetic brakes on a lot of reels but the research I've done tells me the magforce z is bot a traditional magnetic brake. I loves centrifugal brakes but what is everyone's opinion between the 2. 

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Both a great.  The Magforce Z will give you a little more control at the end of the cast to deal with bait getting caught by wind ect.  When I fish out of a kayak I use my Daiwas exclusively.  I'll get blown around on the cast and end up facing away from where the bait lands sometime making it difficult to stop the spool when the bait hits the water.  With Magforce Z I can pick out a few lose coils when that happens.  With my SVS Shimanos the backlash is way, way worse.  On the other hand when I am casting with the wind to my back the very free nature of the SVS centrifugal can really let a bait get out there for a long cast.  I like both but prefer Magforce Z for all around use.

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I have used both. I no longer own any shimano reels.

 

I own 3 Tatula ct's and 2 Tatula sv's.

the magforce z is a centrifugal magnetic brake. Easy to set and very forgiving.

If a Tatula is set correctly it is one of the easiest reels to use.

 

 

 

 

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Magforce Z is a straightforward system that produces good results. The pin and dial SVS Infinity nonsense on the 2012 - 2015 model year Shimano reels I owned did not perform for me. 

 

Plenty of people seem to like SVS though so who knows.

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Magforce Z  by a long shot. My Daiwas are a lot easier to set up and use than my Shimano’s.

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I own 1 daiwa and 8-10 shimano! I will take a shimano any day of the week over a daiwa. My tatula is one of my most finicky reels i own actually, casting distance is a lot less then any of my shimano’s. I just put 2 brakes on and send her! 

 

I feel as though I have a lemon daiwa, as I set up my dads and both his reels aren’t as finicky, and seem to get better distance. Not as good as the shimano’s but much better then my tatula 

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Daiwa uses a few different brake systems. They vary between models. You can’t lump them all together 

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I too prefer the magforce Z to the SVS brakes.  I feel I have much more control over the spool speed.

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For those that like mag force in regards of control, you can do the same with centrifugal brake just set more tension spool to slow fall and believe you will get the same distance if not more compare to mag brake. For heavy lure and if distance is concern SVS all the way.

Mag force to me is shine on light lure and if you cast into wind. 

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2 hours ago, JustJames said:

For those that like mag force in regards of control, you can do the same with centrifugal brake just set more tension spool to slow fall and believe you will get the same distance if not more compare to mag brake. For heavy lure and if distance is concern SVS all the way.

Mag force to me is shine on light lure and if you cast into wind. 

 

Different strokes. I find Magforce Z excellent for distance casting with heavy lures. Daiwa reels can be l o n g.

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I prefer Shimano but love Daiwa too. However, Different strokes for different folks. 

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I prefer a mechanical brake. I consider these “real” brakes. China has made major advancements in rare earths, but friction brakes still work better for casting hard for long distances. If you are going to be casting with full power for long distance, the SVS is better. Mags and things like Magforce Z are best for the short to mid distance casts you see in bass tournaments. So it depends on what you’re doing. I’m always aiming for max distance, but I get better accuracy with the SVS brakes, too. I always find it easier to dial it in with a mechanical brake than a magnet. No matter how many clicks there are on the mag dial, it still only works out to 3 levels—low, medium and a little more medium.

 

You have to try both to see what works best for you. The Tatula 100 is an all around great reel. By price, it still wins for nearly everything.

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Darn liberal media and their fake brakes.

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A person will probably do better with what they are familiar with.  I own both.  For light lures I would rather have a Daiwa.  Was out for the first time with a Scorpion 70HG (SVS braking) Sunday.  Casting with a TDX (also first time out with it for me) was a breeze.  Not so much with the 70.  The TDX has Magforce V.  I didn't get much time with either reel (wife was wanting to leave) so I didn't get to mess much with the SVS brakes.  Had already read they need to be set high.  I did get a backlash with it when I tried to lower the outside dial.  Have all 4 on inside.

 

There are a lot of posts on setting up the Magforce Z reels correctly.  Personally I think you owe it to yourself to try a Tatula.  I do have a few reels with Magforce Z.  A Zillion 50th Anniversary is one of my favorite reels.  But so is a Curado 201E7 and Chronarch 100B.  :D

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1 hour ago, new2BC4bass said:

 Was out for the first time with a Scorpion 70HG (SVS braking) Sunday.  Casting with a TDX (also first time out with it for me) was a breeze.  Not so much with the 70.  The TDX has Magforce V.  I didn't get much time with either reel (wife was wanting to leave) so I didn't get to mess much with the SVS brakes.

The spool of Curado spin super fast despite with its hefty weight. I had to dial in for a long time before get a hang of it. As of now I have 3 brake on and dial at 2-5, but still get backlash from time to time when not careful. I have to set spool tension a little tight where a little tug make only a few loop on spool. I don’t have this problem with 200i, bantam or even with SLX with only 2 brake on.

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Magforce Z!!!

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Shimano SVS infinity

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If I were just comparing braking systems I'd give daiwa a slight edge. However...I prefer shimano in every other aspect.  Ergonomics,  smoothness,  quietness etc. I've had several of the newer daiwas and they are fine reels but I much prefer curados and slx reels overall.  Shimanos are much more consistent also. Buy 5 daiwas and no 2 will feel exactly the same. One may be super smooth and quiet while one is geary and loud. Shimano seems like they all feel the same. This has been my experience anyways and I'm sure some would argue it the other way. Whichever feels best to you is right for you.  Either braking system will do its job just fine

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