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Just curious, always a few that use the 10/110 series of rifles for hunting or target. Just got done dialing my last three guns in at the bench with handload work-ups, won't build anymore now...just enjoy them. I get pretty good accuracy from them and they are simple to modify and accuracy tune, I'll be using a 260 and 7mm-08 for deer this fall. Nosler Accubonds are my favorite bullets, accuracy and performance on game.    Dave

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I have never owned a Savage. My brother and a couple of friends use them.  They are supposed to have pretty good out of the box accuracy.  My action of choice is the Model 700,  I'm in the final stages of a 6.5CM build now.  Since used rifles are hard to come buy, I bought one on clearance from BPS, brought it home, tore it down and started to work.  I thought I was through with it a couple of weeks ago, but installing the barrel on it for the final time, (I thought) I made a very dumb mistake and destroyed the receiver,  the only way to fix it was buy a new one.  Received it and hopefully will have the blueprinting finished tomorrow.  The fun part of this is, you normally do the receiver and then thread the barrel to fit it.  Well, the barrel was done for the other receiver so now I have to make the threads in the receiver match the barrel.  A lot more of a challenge making the existing threads in the receiver match the existing threads on the barrel.                               

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That does sound like you got a tough job ahead on the thread matching. Having the reciever and barrel threaded sure makes barrel swaps and headspacing a breeze. Remington actions are strong and accurate with attention to detail, sounds like you will have a nice rig when finished. I just had a thread matching deal myself with buying a large shank match barrel and needing to cut it down and recontour the shank of the barrel to small shank. Lg and small are so close we had to cut the threads deeper in what was left of original thread, then when we fit the barrel and checked throat depth for OAL of cartridges for fitting magazine, had to cut some off barrel and rechamber with a different match reamer. And then pickup threads and go a ways further out barrel for barrel nut. Lot of work to salvage a very nice #3 contour 1-9" stainless 7mm-08 barrel, recrowned and threaded for brake while it was being made right . Glad I didn't have but $50 in the new barrel to start with :) 

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I don't like to mess with the outside of the barrel once it has been stress relieved, and don't care to stress relieve one myself because sometimes they can pick up a slight bend.  I use a lot of Shilen barrels, this is my fifth build with theirs and have been very happy with them, their #7, 6.5 SS, select, match grade cut to 26" on final finish, is what I'm using on this build.  They won't warranty one if you even flute it.  I also use Kreiger barrels but their lead time has gotten so long, almost a year, that I have to order the barrel one year, and build the rifle the next.   The 6.5CM was a spur of the moment thing, I have a 260 I built several years ago that shoots extremely well, and decided to do a CM just to compare the two.  When I plan one out, I order all my parts and build it the following year, but this one didn't get planned out.

I'm having to do this one in two stages, Pacific Tool and Gauge have such a lead time on their bolts, I'm going ahead in building it with the old bolt, but doing the machine work for the new one.  This new receiver came with such an oversize raceway, my .705 reamer didn't even touch the front, but it only measure .706 so I left it and ordered a .703 bolt.  Remington has gotten so sloppy with their machine work, I guess for my next one, I'm going to order a .715 raceway reamer.  It's a pretty sloppy fit when they machine their raceways to .702 in the back and .706 in the front, and their bolts only measure .690.  I went ahead and cut the relief in the barrel to .709 to give clearance for the PT&G bolt and I didn't modify the factory bolt so I'm hoping I won't have to do anything to the barrel when the new bolt gets here.  The headspace will be .001 or less so that will leave a little fudge factor on chamber depth and if it needs to be a little deeper, I can hand ream it a couple thousands and not have to go through the hour of setup in my barrel jig to do anything with the barrel. 

I always pin my recoil lug so taking the barrel off doesn't affect the bedding but I had just as soon not have to take it off.

I am also just a bit old fashion and prefer the classic sporter look over the chassis stock.  It also makes some very surprising sleepers when I'm at the range with what looks like a plain jane, out of the box rifle and it's outshooting the guy's next to me $3000+ custom built chassis rifle.  I've never tried to do anything with a Remington synthetic stock, this was the first one I've owned, but have modified the total crap out of it, adding a V bedding block, carbon fiber reinforcements, steel bottom metal for AICS magazines and hoping it will hold a group.  Just to keep the cheap out of the box Remington look to it.  After all, how much cheaper can you get than a Remington OEM synthetic varmint stock.

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I have a Savage 110E in .30-‘06. It’s probably 25-30 years old. I glass-bedded the action (that’s fun with that barrel nut) and worked up a good handload of 57.0 grains IMR-4350 and a 165 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip. It will shoot 0.75” 3-shot groups all day. 

 

Savage makes butt-ugly but accurate and dependable rifles. 

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I’ve got a savage 10 fcp-k in .308 tack driver with factory loads so far. I bought a reloading kit to reload for my AR in 20practical but will also do the .308, 45-70 and 243 while I’m at it. I wanna get a good kid for the 308 since the factory ammo it likes is hard to come by even before all this pandemic panic buying. 

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I own 2 Savage Axis II rifles. one in .308 for deer and one in 22-250 for coyotes.

they are both very accurate. Both are light and comfortable to shoot.

I can confidently Harvest whitetails out to 200 yards with the .308.

I have shot coyotes out to 475 yards with the 22-250.

 

If I was a serious long range shooter.  I would probably buy more expensive rifles.

Until then the axis rifles do just fine.

 

 

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Well sounds like some savage interest after all, agree with your feeling on outside barrel work but have simply never experienced it in a long time of rifle work. I use Criterion - McGowen - Lothar Walther - Pac Nor - and factory Savage barrels. Most accurate barrel and gun I have is a pretty much bone stock Savage 12BVSS 22-250 that got a skim bed under action ($40)and coil and a half clipped off varmint accutrigger (free :) ) other than that out of the box. I used to shoot some local 100yd benchrest so I worked up a load and got it to shoot consistant mid ones to mid twos 3 shot groups measured extreme spread and the bore size subtracted. Outshoots the savages I've done stock - trigger - recoil lug - and barrel replacements.....go figure.  My 260 and 7mm-08 deer rifles with short 20" lighter contour barrels both shoot threes to fours and are short fast handling guns for climbing into trees and woods hunting with. A tactical heavy barrel shoots fours and a new long range 26" varmint barreled 7mm-08 just hit the threes with a varget load this summer. I can change barrels and headspace in 30min. or less and very much enjoy them. To me beauty is a couple bughole groups at the range.........thats what gets me going. Kinda like when you catch large bass, people don't care about you or your boat.......its the results! 

 

Brian and Clayton you both are doing very good, handloads worked up with best powder, powder charge weight, primer, good brass prep, and OAL tuning will make most savages shine. Floating boltheads and floating barrels work, laminate and accu stocks are good but earlier flimsy synthetic stocks leave some to be desired B&C or boyds as well as others make a stiffer more stable replacement. Good Shooting to all....fall will be coming soon, stands are up.    Dave

Russ I envy where you deer hunt :) sounds like you got those axis guns shooting good.  Good Shooting this fall.   Dave

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On 8/20/2020 at 8:27 AM, Tatsu Dave said:

7mm-08 for deer this fall

 

22 hours ago, Way2slow said:

My action of choice is the Model 700


This is the model and caliber I have used for the past 13 seasons. It has a Nikon buck master scope and tack driving accuracy from long range with minimal recoil. I prefer the Winchester Ballistic Silvertip in 140 grain bullets.

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IMHO the 7mm-08 is pretty close to the perfect cartridge for deer hunting. That said the 260, same parent case and similar attributes, is becoming just as popular with me. Actually I built two pretty much identical rifles but one is all stainless and slightly lighter due to stock and barrel contour choice (260), Its my all weather gun while the other (7mm-08) don't purposely get carried in rain and snow. Identical scopes (zeiss conquest) and same triggers and 20" length barrels. I'm really impressed with Nosler accubond bullets at this point since I switched from paritions 4 years back. Really thick up here where we hunt and the deer run large framed (northern whitetail), have shot a few over 200Lb's dressed. 

 

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The first rifle I built for my Granddaughter when she was 13, was a 260.  For almost 50 years my preferred caliber was the 6mm Remington out to 300 yards and 7mm Magnum beyond that, but was thinking I should go with something that had a little more punch than a 6mm for her, since I only make head shots with mine and she would probably be making body shots.  After building hers and shooting it, I grew kind of found of that caliber so I built me model 7, 260 with a 20" Shilen barrel.  The thing is ungodly accurate at 500 yards and needless to say, I haven't shot my 6mm or 7mm Maq for several years. 

Oh, and the first deer she shot with it, was a head shot.  However she is a very good shot.  The people at the range that know her, called her "little Annie Oakley" because she can out shot most of them. She consistently shoots 2" groups at 500 yards with it, but she is also a very good instinct shooter with a 22, that's why the gave her that nick name.

 

Before anyone gets on their high horse about head shots, since I started shooting that 6mm in 1969, I've never had to go look for a deer that I shot in the head, dead as a hammer right where they stood.  Now, how many can say that, that make body shots.  I hunted down shot deer for four years, shot with a Marlin 336C 30-30.  Got tired of that and went with something that had way more hydro shock and way more accurate. Now, I'm not saying I made head shots at 300 yards, but could if I wanted to. I'm a meat hunter, not a trophy hunter, care nothing about those big tough older deer.  I usually let big bucks walk, in favor of a smaller deer or doe, so if I didn't have a good, clean shot, I didn't take it.

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Ya I'm not taking any head shots.  The target is too small, even if the deer is standing still and I've got it in the cross hairs.  My great grandfather used to shoot them in the neck and I know for a fact that he missed more than a few.  But he was also using open sights on a more primitive gun too.  The does/fawns definitely taste better than the bucks.  Anyone who has tried to eat an old rutted up buck can attest to the tough, leathery taste it has.  I'll take a young corn fed deer any day for the freezer.  If Mr Big comes my way its getting shot at.  Trophy deer don't come along very often in my realm.

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Ya I'm not taking any head shots.  The target is too small, even if the deer is standing still and I've got it in the cross hairs.  My great grandfather used to shoot them in the neck and I know for a fact that he missed more than a few.  But he was also using open sights on a more primitive gun too.  The does/fawns definitely taste better than the bucks.  Anyone who has tried to eat an old rutted up buck can attest to the tough, leathery taste it has.  I'll take a young corn fed deer any day for the freezer.  If Mr Big comes my way its getting shot at.  Trophy deer don't come along very often in my realm.

Agree with you, I like a high shoulder shot myself (wrecks a little burger meat but not much)....they seldom run anywhere. I know my son will shoot a nice tender doe or young buck cause he don't pass on any deer. I hate it when he shoots a fawn (up here they call them lambs) cause there is very little meat for the freezer and I like to see them grow up and pass along genes.. The entire family loves venison and we utilize all the meat we get,  jerky (YUM!), burger, steaks, backstrap, and best of all tenderloin. The deer we shoot feed on corn clover and apples so they are very good eating. I hold out till the third week (the rut peak) for a buck and then will shoot what comes by after that. 

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Yea but how many can do this consistently.  Finished the 6.5CM, made 10 break-in shots, cleaning between each, and adjusting scope.  It had stopped copper fouling so I shot one five shot group at 100yards, shooting off the tool box on my truck.  The black center on that target is about 3/4". A penny covers the five shots.  This is no load building or tweaking done, just five generic bullets out of 15 I loaded to break it in.

I probably shoot more a year than most deer hunters will shoot in a lifetime, and most deer shots a way less than 100 yards, unless you are a Texan hunting around feeders, and ever most of them are less than 100. 

It boils down to confidence. OK6_5CM.thumb.jpg.3281b1297d2cff05bb6d7533ab34dfee.jpg

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Bragging about decapitating deer...unnecessary

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2 hours ago, gimruis said:

Bragging about decapitating deer...unnecessary

 

   When I read your comment, I went back and re-read all the posts to try and find the one that mentioned decapitation. I couldn't find it. Has it been removed? If it hasn't, could you point me to it, please?     jj

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Wasn't trying to hijack the post and definitely didn't intend on post something offensive, but a comment I made about shooting a deer in the head was considered that by gimruis so I erased that line.  So, lets not go any further with it so OPs post doesn't get interfered with any more than it already has.

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  I see.     jj

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Yes I believe Savage to be pretty good gun for the money , fan of the accu trigger. 

Someone mentioned that Savage made butt ugly rifles. Lol20200829_132432.thumb.jpg.4330e9c15c5e64b101f0d4f6b6c87c39.jpg

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That is a very nice looking gun Bird!  I don't find them ugly.....but what do I know, I just like em'  :)  I've always wanted a thumbhole stock model 12 but havn't got there yet.   Dave

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18 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

   When I read your comment, I went back and re-read all the posts to try and find the one that mentioned decapitation. I couldn't find it. Has it been removed? If it hasn't, could you point me to it, please?     jj


The post was altered. I am not offended by someone bragging about harvesting a deer in a specific manner but bragging about “taking a deer’s head off” because he thinks he’s a better shot than most, that was unnecessary.  Turkey hunters using archery often use a broad head designed to cut the head right off the bird. That’s the actual design.

 

Regardless, it’s time to move along now, Betty.

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I only own Savage rifles now as I love the out of box accuracy and that AcuTrigger. My latest purchase was an Axis ll in .308 that I added a Boyd's thumbhole stock to. Bedded it and that inexpensive combo shoots .33MOA at 300. So does it's little brother a Model 25 Varminter .223Rem. My Ruger Mark ll never did better than .5MOA.

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I carried a Savage 110 22 250 when I ran a trap line in Alaska.  I used it to harvest caribou for food, and shot many fox, wolves, even a lynx for fur.  It was a dependable, accurate, inexpensive rifle.  Comparable in quality to many bolt action rifles with much higher price tags.  

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