I might upgrade.  Keep my current Hobie but buy another. 
 

I test drove my friends PA12-360 and it felt big and slow.   Super stable.  I groan when he asks me to help drag his boat.   not sure I want one. 
 

but the Outback!   Fast , not too heavy. Stable.  Ocean ready.  Big upgrade from my current Compass.  I can put a motor on the back of an Outback easy. 
 

I’ll still use my compass at the locations with long boat drags but an extra kayak for a “friend-loaner “ feels like a good idea. 
 

anyone with more than one kayak?  Is it a pain? 

What could possibly be a pain about options for different needs?

 

The difference in weight between the Outback and PA12 is only 20 lbs. Once you start getting into kayaks too heavy to "throw and go", it's getting carted or trailered around, anyway.

I highly recommend the Outback.  Great for bass fishing, very stable and maneuverable, lots of well thought out accessories, and launches well in surf.  They are heavy but you can't have everything.  

On 10/28/2021 at 11:13 AM, Darth-Baiter said:

I might upgrade.  Keep my current Hobie but buy another. 
 

I test drove my friends PA12-360 and it felt big and slow.   Super stable.  I groan when he asks me to help drag his boat.   not sure I want one. 
 

but the Outback!   Fast , not too heavy. Stable.  Ocean ready.  Big upgrade from my current Compass.  I can put a motor on the back of an Outback easy. 
 

I’ll still use my compass at the locations with long boat drags but an extra kayak for a “friend-loaner “ feels like a good idea. 
 

anyone with more than one kayak?  Is it a pain? 

 

Pain to store. I'm selling my Ride 115 if anyone is interested.

I own 3, each one purchased with a very specific use in mind.    I live in Maryland and spend a lot of time fishing the Potomac and Shenandoah rivers.  I have a Lure 11.5 sit-on that I use for the stretches that are relatively accessible with slower, flatter current and might have a few class I,II rapids.    I have a Perception 9.5 sit-in for the stretches that are more difficult to access, but have some prime spots for smallmouth.  These spots are among some of the rockiest parts of the river and require negotiating some Class II (and a III) rapids to get there.  These are spots that boats, including jets, and timid paddlers don’t go.  They have produced 5 PBs.  And I have a Lure 13.5 sit-on with trolling motor that I bought for use on the TVA lakes of Tennessee River at least 4 or 5 times a year when I visit family, and occasionally on some of the lakes near me in Md, Va and WV.  The Lures also allow me to stand and fish, including fly fishing when the mood strikes.

I have had as many as 4 and now down to 1 and looking to get another for river specific journeys.  It is all about what you want to spend your money on.  I have made a shift to primarily fly fishing and moving water the past few years and that is what is making me want a different boat for rivers,  SUP is high on my list.  

 

19 minutes ago, flyfisher said:

I have had as many as 4 and now down to 1 and looking to get another for river specific journeys.  It is all about what you want to spend your money on.  I have made a shift to primarily fly fishing and moving water the past few years and that is what is making me want a different boat for rivers,  SUP is high on my list.  

 

Hi Fly,

     You might want to take a look at the Diablo Kayaks/SUP.  They are kind of a cross between a Kayak and a SUP.  They are pretty good river boats IMHO. 

Fishingmickey

On 10/28/2021 at 7:04 PM, king fisher said:

I highly recommend the Outback.  Great for bass fishing, very stable and maneuverable, lots of well thought out accessories, and launches well in surf.  They are heavy but you can't have everything.  

Thanks sir!  You’re not helping:)

 

im gonna go annoy the kayak salesman with my endless questions after work today. 
 

my compass lacks in tackle gear management.  It all ends up at my feet. And nothing fits under the seat.  Wasted unusable space. 

19 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

my compass lacks in tackle gear management.

My Outback has more tackle storage than I can use.  Bait Monkey goes with me every time out on the water.  Lots of well thought out places to store scissors, plyers etc.  Easy access water proof box in front of seat, I put wallet, phone, scale, and misc. tackle in.  I stash two tackle boxes under the seat.  You pay for all the extras in price and weight but you don't have buy separate accessories later.    

Get an Old Town and save yourself some money AND get all the features you're looking for ?