55 minutes ago, Kyle S said:

If I recall correctly he uses a 50lb Fluoro leader when he fishes for musky and pike. must be something to it.

Pike and other esox are abundant in most waters I fish. I can’t speak for snakeheads, but I can tell you from experience that pike can easily saw through taught braid, but have trouble cutting through thick nylon or fluoro. I still don’t use a leader for frog fishing, but for some techniques bite-offs are a main reason I use leaders. Another main one is abrasion resistance around rocks and logs. 

19 hours ago, Deleted account said:

 

I fish them with a short 50 lb mono leader cause snakeheads...

He said NEVER. Don’t question. 

I use 50lb. Straight braid.   Trying Viscous “No Fade” braid this year.  I do agree that pike can and do saw off braid at times, but I have been pretty lucky landing them while frog fishing.  If I am fishing a Texas rig with braid (in weeds), I seem to lose A Lot more rigs to pike on braid.  I think it is because they get it better with that set up.  

2 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said:

I use 50lb. Straight braid.   Trying Viscous “No Fade” braid this year.  I do agree that pike can and do saw off braid at times, but I have been pretty lucky landing them while frog fishing.  If I am fishing a Texas rig with braid (in weeds), I seem to lose A Lot more rigs to pike on braid.  I think it is because they get it better with that set up.  

While my frog/toad rig is straight braid, my general pitching rig is 40# 832 with 20# FC leader while my heavy pitch/punch rig is 50# 832 with 20# FC leader.

17 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

While my frog/toad rig is straight braid, my general pitching rig is 40# 832 with 20# FC leader while my heavy pitch/punch rig is 50# 832 with 20# FC leader.

I am pretty much a straight fluoro with most of my pitching, but in the MILF, I like straight braid.    I am not against leaders at all as all of my spinning rigs use an FG knot.   I just like straight braid in the thick stuff.  Unfortunately, the pike like the thick stuff too.  

I went with 832 #50, for the frog rod and thanks for the input 

1 hour ago, Cbump said:

He said NEVER. Don’t question. 

 

Sorry, I forgot to spring forward the bass calendar mood ring thingy....