3 hours ago, BassKat said:

My YZH and Maxima landed yesterday. Diameter and feel looks good. Can't wait to start testing. I also have PlineCXX & IzorlineXXX on my radar.  

 

@rangerjockey I haven't been able to find any 11lb, just the larger sizes.

sent you a pm.

On 2/23/2025 at 12:15 PM, BassKat said:

My YZH and Maxima landed yesterday. Diameter and feel looks good. Can't wait to start testing

 

Bumping this from the future. Did you get any conclusive results comparing the two?

 

Found this thread because I too am ready to toss off the braid to leader setup on my spinning rod due to wind and abbrasion. This has been an incredibly helpful read! 

Anyone use the Suffix Revolve on spinning gear yet?

@Rucksack and everyone, a bit of an update...

 

As a reminder, in addition to Yo-Zuri Hybrid and Maxima Ultragreen, I am also fishing Sufix Advance.  I fish mostly shallow water in extremely heavy cover.  I lose a lot of fish bc I throw places where the chances of getting a good one out are low, and commonly have to take fish over logs. I am extremely tough on line and go through a lot.

 

I feel like I'm in the right place with these finalists because they are all really top-notch copolys, and I greatly appreciate everyone's advice getting here. Although I am not finished testing, plan to test Izorline XXX at some point, and any one of these could still emerge as the winner, I am slightly leaning away from Ultragreen at this point because of Yo-Zuri Hybrid being so impressive. Ultragreen is very good, but I think YZH, if anything, is probably a little better and much cheaper for frequent relining. 

 

The manageability of YZH is very good, especially given its toughness. I don't feel like the line, especially when newer, "demands" line conditioner, although it makes it even better. From a strength-to-diameter and knot strength standpoint, YZH is absolutely awesome. I hung up last week on 10lb YZH and had to break it off. I was fishing a 3/0 Owner Twistlock Light, which I've had really good luck with on big fish, and I broke (not bent out) the hook instead of the 10lb YZH.

 

On abrasion resistance, it gets a little strange. For what I put line through, the YZH is coming back with more minute nicks and detectible roughed up areas than I had with my now-discontinued, all-time favorite line, Defier Armilo. At first, I retied twice as much with YZH, which was annoying. Finally, I started chancing it with minute nicks and roughed up areas that weren't too bad, and I have yet to break a line that I thought should not have broken. I sense there's something about their manner of construction that allows undamaged portions of line to persevere in delivering strength even though adjacent portions may be damaged. If I were fishing Baccarac, I'd probably be retiring quite a bit with YZH, but I'm not obsessing over it as much now. 

 

I still consider Sufix Advance excellent. My gut tells me, YZH might have a touch less stretch, a little more sensitivity, and ultimately better strength under my extremely harsh conditions, although it gets scary with some of the scuffs it gets. I am ahead of myself here because Sufix Advance is really good and deserves to go head to head before I make a decision, since I haven't used it since my YZH and Ultragreen landed.

 

These three are very worthy of testing by those in the copoly hunt. I am not finished and have a ton of respect for all three, but the enthusiasm a lot of folks have for YZH makes sense to me.

 

 

It's still early in my testing, but I have managed to fish a lot over the week with YZH head-to-head with Sufix Advance. Sufix Advance is losing ground to YZH. Again, Sufix Advance, YZH, and Ultragreen are all excellent lines. I also have a ton of respect for Sensation. It would be awesome to see someone do controlled testing on top copolys. Based on my on-water testing, I'm starting to lean into YZH and really liking it so far. Nothing can replace Defier Armilo. That said, similar to Ultragreen, it was much more expensive. At this point, I would buy YZH if it were much more expensive. When you consider the price, it's an unbelievable overdelivery. 

For the YZH experts, please compare to Big Game. I do love my YZH, but messing around with some big game I can see it holding its own for non sensitivity based techniques. 

 

I just haven't been able to actually get out and fish in order to compare

Berkley Pro Spec Chrome has such little memory, I use it as running line for my spey rods "fly rods", you can take 30 or 40 pound, leave it on a small diameter spool for weeks, pull it off the reel and zero memory, no coils, etc... Even in freezing cold temps...

 

That being said, for some reason, I have never tried it on a baitcaster or spinning reel in lighter pound tests. It's every bit as tough as Big Game, has similar stiffness to Big Game which may not make it great on spinning reels, it just has less memory than any other heavy mono I have ever had my hands on and my searches have went far and wide... 

 

It's better than the mono running line material the fly line companies sell for way way more.... 

 

I have caught more fish on Maxima Ultragreen than anything else, it's mostly what I used as tippet/leaders for fly fishing for all species, or leader material for steelhead fishing, most of my life. That being said, there have been a lot of fancy lab tests conducted the past couple years that show it as quite an inferior material to some others, when comparing others in the same actual diameter. None the less, there is no disputing it's long standing cult like following and track record of landing fish. Maxima Clear is slightly stiffer than the Ultragreen and the brown Maxima is stiffer than both, as you go up in stiffness, you also achieve more abrasion resistance in the Maxima lineup...

 

I really did not like the Sufix Advance mono, ironically, the Sufix Advance fluoro mainline, is probably my favorite fluoro leader material, ever made, like it far better than the Sufix Advance fluoro leader material or any other leader material I have bought, to include ultra high-end stuff like V-Hard, etc... The Advance fluoro mainline has just the perfect amount of toughness, but a tiny tiny bit of exterior softness that just makes it hold a 13 turn simple Albright knot with 10-15 pound braid like no other material I have found. I can make that knot ultra ultra slim and tiny and never have issues with it going through guides, issues with abrasion, even in areas with mussels, etc... Most importantly, I can tie that Alrbight knot with my eyes closed darn near so can do it quickly, consistently and even in the dark... I have had issues with that knot holding well with other fluoros over the years, never once had a failure with the Advance fluoro mainline. Offtopic, but I have wasted a lot of money trying all these fancy leader materials and never found anything I liked more than the Advance fluoro on the bigger spools which surprised me as I thought the copoly Advance was a huge dud.