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I played around with a soft body frog yesterday for the first time and caught some really quality fish.  However, I am struggling a bit on the retrieve.  I watched some rigging videos and had mine rigged in the same manner with a 4/0 EWG.  But, about 70% of the time, my frog was upside down on the retrieve with the bend of the hook on the top side and the point on the bottom.  What am I dong wrong?  How do I get the frog to run true?

You could use a lightly weighted hook...enough to allow the frog to land weight side down....yet still able to keep the frog floated.

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1 hour ago, Rockhopper said:

I played around with a soft body frog yesterday for the first time and caught some really quality fish.  However, I am struggling a bit on the retrieve.  I watched some rigging videos and had mine rigged in the same manner with a 4/0 EWG.  But, about 70% of the time, my frog was upside down on the retrieve with the bend of the hook on the top side and the point on the bottom.  What am I dong wrong?  How do I get the frog to run true?

I've had this happen.

The fix for me with a weightless hook was to Slow Down the retrieve.

A weighted hook would help if I felt like I needed to move the bait with a little more zest.

:smiley:

A-Jay

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Try a 4/0 or 3/0 screw lock hook with a 1/16 ounce belly weight.

 

Depending on the frog material (floating or slow sink), you can fish some like a glide bait sort of like walking the dog but just below the surface. If you pause it, it will back glide. That will sometimes trigger a strike if they won't hit it on a straight retrieve on the surface. 

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52 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

I've had this happen.

The fix for me with a weightless hook was to Slow Down the retrieve.

A weighted hook would help if I felt like I needed to move the bait with a little more zest.

:smiley:

A-Jay

I was fishing it as slow as I could to keep it on top of the water.

 

 

 

I will give the light weighted hook a try, I just was hoping to not have to retrieve faster to keep it on the surface.

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26 minutes ago, Rockhopper said:

I was fishing it as slow as I could to keep it on top of the water.

I will give the light weighted hook a try, I just was hoping to not have to retrieve faster to keep it on the surface.

Ok then.

I got nothing.

:smile11:

A-Jay

Some are supposed to float, others to sink when stopped.  Use a weigthless screw lock with the floating ones.  Also some frogs are better than others at landing right side up.

 

Use heavy braid ( 65 lb). It helps to float the frog.

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Use a hollow body frog in lieu of a toad.

Tom

I use the gamakatsu superline hooks with the screw lock swapped out with an owner center pin style screw lock.  I think I use 4/0, but they could be 5/0 size too but I use them mostly for horny toads.

 

When you line up the hook where it would come through the body like a normal tx rig with the bait straight, go another about an 1/16 to 1/8 inch further back when putting the hook through the bait.  This bends the bait, but make sure the bait is bending down towards the bend of the hook and not up away from the hook.  That slight bend down shifts the center of gravity of the bait below centerline, which allows the bait to flip right side up.  

 

It may still land upside down, but simply raising your rod tip up and reeling in with a slight bow in your line it will flip back over, provided it isn't over a pad or something stiff preventing it from turning.  

 

I don't like the belly weighted hooks as they collect too much snot grass on it.  If we had consistent eel grass, hydrilla, or milfoil instead of scum I would probably use them, but since we don't have those nice weeds, I just use a bare hook.

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