Heads up on TT this morning, 

Daiwa is releasing new Ryoga

 

and new shallow spool Steez SV Light

 

Glad they didn't ruin the Ryoga with a t-wing.

1 hour ago, Micro Module Police said:

Glad they didn't ruin the Ryoga with a t-wing.

It would be hideous but an ideal use case for it.  

Steez sv light, is that for bfs? I wonder if it’s just a shallow spool steez sv.

What do you think makes BFS? 

Shallow lightweight spool, low-inertia spool bearings, threadline -

 

- it hasn't changed since it gained a name in 2000, and it's been around much longer.   

 

6 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

It would be hideous but an ideal use case for it.  

I know why you're saying it, the line guide is close to the spool, but i don't agree. Never have i felt like the original ryoga wasn't casting well. Would absolutely not want to see it, even if it didn't look like a deformed dinosaur.

Hard for me to get excited for new reels these days. Part of that is the standard is so high now, for both casting and spinning, that it’s hard for something new to show much improvement. It’s also the prices raising so much that it just feels like it’s best to buy older or used gear and save an awful lot of money. 
 

Just a few years ago the idea of a Steez SV Light would have had me very excited.

When you get to '18 Ryoga, there's not much to improve - replacing stock for a limited purchase run is Good Enough.  

 

I definitely won't be buying a 32-mm Steez, because I like the ability to swap 34-mm spools between 6 different reels.  

1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said:

When you get to '18 Ryoga, there's not much to improve - replacing stock for a limited purchase run is Good Enough.  

Borrowed photo from @Bigbox99 

If they had made a re-run of Red Ryoga SV L/E, they could ask any price.  

I definitely won't be buying a 32-mm Steez, because I like the ability to swap 34-mm spools between 6 different reels.  

That reel is sexy for sure. What does L/E mean? 

14 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

When you get to '18 Ryoga, there's not much to improve

 

I do hope they improve the non-handle sideplate, or go back to the old design. The '18 Ryoga uses a plastic ring to lock it in place, for easier access of course, but that leaves a noticeable gap between the sideplate and the frame. I also found some cases online in which that plastic ring broke after some usage. Mine hasn't failed, yet, but I have taken precaution and bought a spare ring. 

@newapti5 I was just in my '18 Ryoga last evening for post-salt-trip detail maintenance.  

I took the palm plate off to inspect bearings (I have full-silicon-nitride spool bearings, so I was making sure they were dry, spun freely and no debris)

Palm plate is tough to align properly to re-install, but I don't get anything like a gap.  

If it's not properly seated, my retaining ring lock-toggle won't budge, but it glides when the palm plate is properly seated.  

I probably have a good one, because that ring is a big part, and can see a warped ring might make it too easy to close out of alignment.  

Btw i hope there's no megsealed bearings on the new ryoga. 

22 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

@newapti5 I was just in my '18 Ryoga last evening for post-salt-trip detail maintenance.  

I took the palm plate off to inspect bearings (I have full-silicon-nitride spool bearings, so I was making sure they were dry, spun freely and no debris)

Palm plate is tough to align properly to re-install, but I don't get anything like a gap.  

If it's not properly seated, my retaining ring lock-toggle won't budge, but it glides when the palm plate is properly seated.  

I probably have a good one, because that ring is a big part, and can see a warped ring might make it too easy to close out of alignment.  

 

It's possible that this is a QC issue, as mine has had that gap since day 1. I don't think this is caused by the sideplate not being properly seated or misalignment, as my sideplate is firmly locked and the plastic ring latch closes normally, except this tiny gap shown in the photo. It is not making the sideplate loose or anything, but still, water can get in there. 

 

And my case is not an unusual case as well, as I did find others on the Internet having the same issue, some even worse. QC issue or not, I do hope it would be addressed in the new Ryoga. 

 

 

I was pretty impressed with the magseal bearings that came out of my bought-used-in-salt reel.  

I replaced them all in kind, and though the copper shields were oxidized black on all the old bearings, they all spun freely.  

 

@newapti5 my palm plate doesn't show that gap, seals as solid as the screwed-down drive-side plate, and definitely no water leaks.  And I like I said, it takes a focused effort to seat before the toggle will close.  

My 3 Zillions are all different on the lock-ring toggle - my silver SV TW, I have to use a popsicle stick to leverage it in either direction.  I wouldn't expect Daiwa to make any significant design changes on a mechanism they use across the board, though they may have improved Q/C on latch or ring tolerances.  

I love mine crazy smooth 

What I wanna know is if we’ll ever get those new black label rods in the US. 6’3” frog rod. Sign me up.

I have a 5'8" 5-power frog/swimbait rod, and it would fit Ryoga nicely, but is a little more trick with Isuzu 720.  

Since I'm showing offset grips with separate rod blades, here's my favorite Ryoga match - Rivermaster 2-hand grip, Slow Taper S-glass rod blade, for skip-casting bunny shrimp under mangroves in mud marsh - with the 2-hand grip, it's 6'4" OL.  

Doubles up on 6'6" Black Label ML for inshore kayak flats drifting - this caught everything on a 2-day trip last April, and made me a Ryoga junkie.  

22 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

What do you think makes BFS? 

Shallow lightweight spool, low-inertia spool bearings, threadline -

 

- it hasn't changed since it gained a name in 2000, and it's been around much longer.   

 

So, is that a yes? 😁

People get hung up that BFS = UL.  This is not true.  

BFS is a means to fish threadline on baitcaster.  

This isn't exactly off topic, since my Ryoga bunny shrimp combo above fishes KTF Kahen SV spool, silicon-nitride microbearings, PE# 1.2 (27-lb) and #3.5 (19-lb) fluoro leader, to horse redfish from going under kayak in foot-deep slough.  

Package BFS reels have increased LW pitch to let you fish down to #0.4 without line dig, but normal-pitch baitcaster with shallow spool will fish #0.8 and larger w/o line dig - that's equivalent diameter to 3-1/2-lb mono.  

I have six 34-mm Daiwas that all swap spools - this makes them versatile, because I can swap-in a spool for the task - deep mono MagZ spool for swimbait to shallow fixed-inductor braid spool for 3-g microplug.  

I am waiting for some discount hit so I can start to purchase my long list of tackle and you are not helping haha, Keep adding to the list specially all are BFS tackle and lures.

For a round reel, the screw-in type palming side plate is a flawless design. Perfectly secure, ads rigidity, no slop. Why would anybody change this? I don't it.

@Micro Module Police 

you shoud be totally happy and without the inclination to gripe about absoluteny anything at all, if you buy up all the OG Daiwa  CV-Z and TD-Z you can get your hands on.  There are plenty of them out there to keep you outfitted in reels as long as you want to fish.  

Then every thread you OP, and Every Post you pen on every other thread will be Positive and Cheerful.  But will happiness make your head explode (rhetorical question).  

Good luck.  

 

23 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

@Micro Module Police 

you shoud be totally happy and without the inclination to gripe about absoluteny anything at all, if you buy up all the OG Daiwa  CV-Z and TD-Z you can get your hands on.  There are plenty of tem out there to keep you outfitted in reels as long as you want to fish.  

Then every thread you OP, and Every Post you pen on every other thread will be Positive and Cheerful.  But will happiness make your head explode (rhetorical question).  

Good luck.  

 

Well, yea, and i've had plenty of them over the years. Never had an issue with a reel with a screw in side plate. They release the 18 ryoga, and the problems began. It's on daiwa trying to fix what doesn't need any fixing.

The thing is, having both, I much prefer these.  

 

I will likely follow through and add a new Ryoga - kinda the reason for the OP, though the youtubes are campy at best.  

1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said:

The thing is, having both, I much prefer these.  

 

I will likely follow through and add a new Ryoga - kinda the reason for the OP, though the youtubes are campy at best.  

There was a 1st gen Ryoga that used a screw in side plate.  It basically identical to the 18 Ryoga except better in that it doesn't have Daiwa Micro Module gears and a has a screw in side plate.  Megabass even made a few versions.

 

https://www.tackletour.com/reviewdaiwaryoga1016hl.html

 

https://www.tackletour.com/reviewmegabasslin10.html

My LIN 10 Black Jungle

 

Just going to post a few of aussiebasser's round reels for round reel visual stimulation.  He hasn't been active in years and has an awesome collection of round reels the world needs to see.