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Solid tip: Expride vs Poison Adrena

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Im looking at get the 6’10” M Expride or the M+ Poison solid tip rods.  Looking for feedback if you have fished them. How is the poison with the lighter stuff (1/8oz head 3-4” minnows). Where do they top out for weights? Thanks! 

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I’m going to bump this thread back around because I’m in a similar position with the same rods.  

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Can't help you guys with the comps, but I definitely think a solid tip makes jighead minnow presentations better/easier.

 

scott

I have 6'10" M+ Poison adrena, love it.. I like fishing close quarters in the kayak for light jigs and texas rigs with it.

For what I do its perfect..

I don't have the Poison Adrena but I just picked up the 7'4" M+ Expride solid tip and got to take it out this past weekend. I've had the 6'10" M Expride solid tip for most of last year.

Under 3/16oz with sub 4" baits for sure the 610 M... above that the M+ feels better to me. Weights above 1/4oz on the 610M felt like they overpowered the tip, especially the 5-6" baits or the heavyweight sakamata which felt like it was going to snap the tip on casting.

I have not tried lower than 3/16oz on the M+ yet but I feel like it would be fine with 1/8oz.

Going forward the 610M is gonna be used with 1/8-3/16 with a mooch minnow or baby z-too, everything else will be on the 74M+

I know the length is different but if the Poison Adrena 610M+ is anything like the M+ Expride is the power is a sweet spot for shakin' a minnow.

*disclaimer: I suck at fishing and only had 1 bite on a minnow all day.... but I'm trying to learn 😁.

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@Gera - what bait weight range does it feel best with? It is rated down to 1/8 oz which is pretty light for a medium let alone a M+. Does it handle a true 1/8 oz? My light end for it would be a 1/8 head plus 3” small minnow, so 3/16 oz total, maybe 1/4 oz. On the upper end it is rated for a 1/2. Does it fish a true 1/2 oz total bait weight well? That would be a 1/4 or 5/16 head with a 4-5” plastic which is the upper end of what I’m throwing most of the time. If it could handle 5/8 oz total that would be awesome, but someone else’s notes on the expride M solid tip indicate maybe don’t go over the upper weight limit too much.

22 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

@Gera - what bait weight range does it feel best with? It is rated down to 1/8 oz which is pretty light for a medium let alone a M+. Does it handle a true 1/8 oz? My light end for it would be a 1/8 head plus 3” small minnow, so 3/16 oz total, maybe 1/4 oz. On the upper end it is rated for a 1/2. Does it fish a true 1/2 oz total bait weight well? That would be a 1/4 or 5/16 head with a 4-5” plastic which is the upper end of what I’m throwing most of the time. If it could handle 5/8 oz total that would be awesome, but someone else’s notes on the expride M solid tip indicate maybe don’t go over the upper weight limit too much.

I believe the ratting is pretty accurate, I use it mainly with a keitech 3/8 jig with a Mini D chunk trailer and its a perfect rod. I really don't go much lighter than a weightless Senko which also works amazing, I see no issues with handling up to 1/2oz.

I have it pair with a Daiwa Zillion SV TW and its great.. but sorry I don't really go very light with it...

Yes the JDM version Casting. I like it so much that I thought about the spinning one too.. I don't fish anything with this power rating on a spinning setup so I gave up the idea.

Can’t help with the poison adrena, but I own the Expride 6’10 medium solid tip and the 7’2 medium solid tip.

I really like both rods. I fish 3-4 inch baits up to 3/16 oz on the 6’10, and the 5-7 inch baits up to 3/16 oz on the 7’2. The 7’2 rod has slightly more power in the tip.

I don’t throw many jig heads over 3/16th since most of the lakes I fish are shallower.

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Well, I’ll do a better review once I have it in hand and I’m on the water but I decided on the M+ Poison Adrena solid tip. I already have the PA UL/M which is great for the 1/8 oz 3-4” minnows. The M expride sounds like a 3/16 ideal range. I figured the M+ would give me just a little more breadth and less overlap. Most of the time it will have a 3/16” and 4” but I want to be able to go up to a 3/8 and 5”-6” bait and I don’t think the straight M solid tip would do it as well. Should be here next week.

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I got the M+ PA here and I'm glad I went with it. Initial impressions are that it's what I was looking for. A 3/16 head plus a 3" mooch minnow are just enough to load the tip (not sure how a 1/8 plus mooch will do) but I can see that the rod powers up very quickly. I'm pretty confident that a 3/8 head plus 5" bait will be fine. Definitey an extra fast action from the solid tip. Putting a good flex into it, the rod doesn't bend hardly at all up through the second guide. That's more than the bottom half of the rod. Then you get a little flex up to the solid tip section before the solid tip gives way. In a lot of ways it is similar to the UL/M poison adrena I've reviewed here separately and which will be my 1/8 oz minnow rod. This solid tip M+ feels great with a stradic 2500/3000 sized reel on it. Unfortunately I was paying attention when I ordered the reel from digitaka and grabbed a C2500 which is a 2000 body reel. So the C2500 is going to go onto the UL/M which is much lighter in the top of the rod and can handle this little reel and the 2500 from it is going onto the new one. It's going to be a great rod me thinks.

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