I fish mostly NTX lakes that have about 2-5ft visibility and I normally use straight black braid for chatterbaits and jigs. I do use bright yellow/Green braid to a 5ft Fluoro leader for Tx rigged Senkos/Worms/Creatures.

Looking to get opinions on keeping with Black vs going to brown or moss green colors.

What are you favorite colors to use

Try hi vis yellow and color the first 3 feet black with a marker. 😉

You get the bite detection bonuses of hi vis line and black seems to be the best color for making big fish more willing to hit with braid on for me.

Best of both worlds (you can do the black marker trick with any color braid and I do - but it’s brilliant with hi vis braid).

14 minutes ago, Pat Brown said:

Try hi vis yellow and color the first 3 feet black with a marker. 😉

You get the bite detection bonuses of hi vis line and black seems to be the best color for making big fish more willing to hit with braid on for me.

Best of both worlds (you can do the black marker trick with any color braid and I do - but it’s brilliant with hi vis braid).

Im going to try that this weekend. I currently have high vis yellow on my senko with a fluro leader rods, but id rather have straight braid.

High vis yellow or white is all I use.

Water visibility here isn't the best. I use several different colors. Don't think it keeps me from catching fish. No way to prove that, tho. I like Hi-Viz yellow and orange the best as they are more visible to me.

I use the green/blue FX2.

I use high vis braids pretty much exclusively. I’ve got dark green on one setup due to an ordering snafu, but it will be replaced with a proper high vis when it’s due.

Don’t overthink it.

There’s already too many decisions to make than what color line to use.

I use just plain green with the first few feet colored black but only in certain conditions for bottom contact presentations.

Never felt the need to use anything else.

Mike

Use whatever you can see.

Appreciate the feedback guys.

I'm always telling people - how can you think a piece of string the size of a hair or piece of weed will scare fish away but the giant metal hooks and weight wont, and here I am now asking the same question🤣

That's some major self doubt happening🤣

3 minutes ago, LGDFW said:

Appreciate the feedback guys.

I'm always telling people - how can you think a piece of string the size of a hair or piece of weed will scare fish away but the giant metal hooks and weight wont, and here I am now asking the same question🤣

That's some major self doubt happening🤣

You are right. It don't scare the fish.

We humans love to deceive ourselves into overthinking about things that don't even exist!

Like what color a lure is on the bottom where no light can reach. Um it does not have a color. Its dark. Color requires light.

We humans make a second mistake in using our human eyesight as a method of judging or comparing to what a bass might see in the water.

The funny thing is, scientists tell us humans that bass do not even see the blue color:

"Blue and Purple: Lacking blue cones, bass cannot differentiate between blues, purples, and dark grays. These colors typically collapse into a similar dark, indistinct signal."

So to put in graph form as an example only.... human vision at top, bass color vision on bottom:

And these are out of water color comparisons. It gets even worse underwater. Less light. Water obstructing vision clarity and acting like a prism breaking apart light by wavelength as changes drastically what a fish sees underwater.

Point is we humans cannot cross compare what we see in the bait and tackle shop out of the water to what fish can see in the water with varying amounts of clarity and lighting variations as well.

I'm curious..... if bass cannot even see blue, then why do we humans use blue lures? Because underwater bass surely see it as a different color if their eyes cannot even see blue or purple hues. Must all kind of blend to black for them down there.

Once I get this, I can begin to unwind some up here and let go of things I think as a human that I believed was a similar comparison to the fish- like lure colors. Line colors, etc.

Today I don't buy up lures in every color. Not necessary. I have found that I can generally ignore color and focus on contrast like white, light, medium, and dark. Focus on shapes. Light reflection. Sound. Vibrations. Sense of smell. Sense of taste, etc.

Color is now one I can slack off of is my point.

I use line of all colors. My preference is for blending in with dark color green moss works well, but my son likes the bright neon colors like yellow, lime green, blue, and even orange. And it does not seem to affect his fish caught count any in a negative way.

I'm using white fireline crystal on a spinning reel now and the fish don't seem to mind.

So to your point of this thread, I would not worry about the difference between moss green and black line, and no need to even use a leader.

If the fish are not afraid of the line, and color to them is not what we think and blending into black for them, then its a non-issue as I see it.

I fish a lot of crystal clear shallow water in high noon sunshine and not one shred of line color changing or leaders makes on shred of difference. I actually prefer the braid line direct from reel to hook because I believe it is more structurally sound.

I always tell my buddies who use leaders that when you lose a fish most of the time it is the weak link in the chain that leader that gives way. They know this going into fishing.

I keep seeing a repeat vision in my head of one of my buddies setting the hook on a large bass in shallow lily pads on St. Johns river. His leader snapped as soon as he set the hook and he lost the fish and the lure. I recall seeing his shoulders drop and he did not even want to turn around. All he said was "I know." I said nothing. We both knew.

He just lost a monster bass because of a belief in something that might not even be true nor necessary.

A false human belief that changes our fishing behavior may not even be necessary to begin with. Or correct. Yet we persist to live in choosing to deceive ourselves as we keep doing it.

Like with blue lures for example. Bass can't even see blues or purple. So how do we explain that one up here out of the water?

AI Overview

Yes, largemouth bass can see color, but their vision is limited compared to humans. They are dichromats, meaning their eyes only have two types of cone cells: one sensitive to red and one sensitive to green. They lack the blue-sensitive cones that humans possess.

Because of their specific eye structure, bass process and perceive colors in unique ways:

• Red and Green: These are the two colors bass can most distinctly perceive, with red being the single most neurologically distinct color in their visual system.

• Blue and Purple: Lacking blue cones, bass cannot differentiate between blues, purples, and dark grays. These colors typically collapse into a similar dark, indistinct signal.

• White and Chartreuse: Bass frequently confuse white and chartreuse. Both colors register to the fish as maximum brightness, meaning they appear relatively similar underwater.

• Black and Blue: Bass often struggle to tell the difference between black and blue lures.

• How They See in the Water

Beyond color, how a bait looks to a bass depends heavily on water clarity and sunlight. In clear water, bass rely heavily on sight, and contrast becomes a major factor. In stained or muddy water, color matters much less, and bass rely more on their lateral lines to detect the vibration and movement of a lure.

@LGDFW "That's some major self doubt happening🤣"

If you don't have confidence in what you are using, line, lure, location, it will affect your catching. You must know that when you cast you will catch a bass. Everytime.

When I use braid it is always grey. I don't fish braid very often, and the applications I do fish it, I don't think color will make a difference. Punching and frogging require strong line, and color is not a concern. I do wonder why people claim black lures are the most visible, but will also mark their line with a black marker to make the line less visible. If there were only one color and type of line, what would anglers argue about during the long winter months? I wonder if the bass debate line color while resting under the ice.

5 hours ago, LGDFW said:

Appreciate the feedback guys.

I'm always telling people - how can you think a piece of string the size of a hair or piece of weed will scare fish away but the giant metal hooks and weight wont, and here I am now asking the same question🤣

That's some major self doubt happening🤣

I have the same reply to the people that insist you have to tie every lure instead of using a snap because it scares the fish.

2 hours ago, BahnzoBass said:

I have the same reply to the people that insist you have to tie every lure instead of using a snap because it scares the fish.

Recently received some snaps that I will be using on my treble hook rods as I'm more apt to try different lures when fishing these types. Plus they may allow more lure action. Will still be tying direct for most lures. Also received some snap swivels for lures that like to cause line twist.