what are some of the pro's & con's of recoil guides ?

Go to the search feature above , type in recoil guides  and read for hours.

i did that and i only got 5 posts

great for jigs worms and slower moving lures very sensitive  not so good for moving baits and i heard they grooove the tip anyway

what do you mean groove the tip ? do you mean from wear? if so is that both braid and mono?

what do you mean groove the tip ? do you mean from wear? if so is that both braid and mono?

braid if i remember correctly but coulda been mono

i did that and i only got 5 posts

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what do you mean groove the tip ? do you mean from wear? if so is that both braid and mono?

braid if i remember correctly but coulda been mono

Braid only.

Pros:

Made from an extremely hard but flexible "Shape Memory" nickel titanium alloy, which does not require plating, cannot corrode in any environment, and returns or "RECOILs" to its original shape after repeated deformations..

Cons:

With braided lines in heavy fighting conditions they are very noisy.

Field tests have shown that they can be groved by braided lines...

Especially older lines that have picked up silt and debris, and it has imbedded into the line. This will over time if not changed out grove the guides and tiptops.

Just my .02¢ in a builders field testing.

Tight Lines!!!!!  

Built a few flippin sticks for myself and others using recoils. Love the light weight on the long rods, only problems I had were the noise with braid will drive you nuts [don't recommend for braid], and tip grooving even with mono! [use an sic or equiv.]

thanks for all the help guys , i was thinking about spending 365.00 on a loomis mossyback GLX but not if i have to worry about the guides grooving.

Apparently, they aren't very hard - only about as hard as stainless steel.  Which is a lot softer than the aluminum oxide used on most guides.  They do groove with braid.  There were some pictures of the damage braid does posted by me not too long ago.  I don't know if you can find them or not.

If you use them with monor or fluoro - no problem.  I have recoil guides on my Johnny Morris Elite 7' MH/F.  I use 12# Yo-Zuri Hybrid.  That rod is very sensitive.  I don't know how much the recoil guides contribute to that.  But it's very impressive - far better than any worm rod I have using aluminum oxide guides.