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Who makes the Gander Mountain Guide Series Rods and the Bass Pro Rods?

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Gander Mountain, like Bass Pro, make their own rods.  It is more expensive to have a U.S. based rod manufacturer make a blank and rod.  BPS and Gander mountain designed what they wanted, and went to a chinese factory that would replicate what they want at the best price.  

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Just because a rod (or anything else for that matter) is made in the states does not mean it is better then something made over seas... expecially those made in asian countries... Asians are super anal and the job market is extreamly competitive... work 12 hours a day 6 days a week for crap pay... but take extreme pride in what they do... quality is quality regardless of where it's made... take it from a guy who has worked lots of manufacturing jobs here in the states and seen many o peice of crap roll out the door it's not funny

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Just because a rod (or anything else for that matter) is made in the states does not mean it is better then something made over seas... expecially those made in asian countries... Asians are super anal and the job market is extreamly competitive... work 12 hours a day 6 days a week for crap pay... but take extreme pride in what they do... quality is quality regardless of where it's made... take it from a guy who has worked lots of manufacturing jobs here in the states and seen many o peice of crap roll out the door it's not funny

well said..amen to that

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They are both made in a secret factory somewhere in the orient. While no one has ever seen the facotry itself; I did get this photo of lunch break!!  I't took some doing,  :(

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They are both made in a secret factory somewhere in the orient. While no one has ever seen the facotry itself; I did get this photo of lunch break!! I't took some doing, :(

your just not right lol

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Just because a rod (or anything else for that matter) is made in the states does not mean it is better then something made over seas... expecially those made in asian countries... Asians are super anal and the job market is extreamly competitive... work 12 hours a day 6 days a week for crap pay... but take extreme pride in what they do... quality is quality regardless of where it's made... take it from a guy who has worked lots of manufacturing jobs here in the states and seen many o peice of crap roll out the door it's not funny

Haha, you must have worked for the BIG Three in the 80's and 90's.

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expecially those made in asian countries... Asians are super anal
Stereotype much? Lol, just kidding of course. I agree with what you said about taking pride in work though, they are feeding their familes and they are going to do a good job or another person who is waiting in line could scoop up the job in an instant. I just bought a Gander Mtn. brand rod AND reel, and so far i am loving it lol. its my first baitcaster though, i've only been fishing for about two years now, not even, and i'm still learning. My GM brand rod and reel is bringing in fish though! So i've no complaints.

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expecially those made in asian countries... Asians are super anal
Stereotype much? Lol, just kidding of course. I agree with what you said about taking pride in work though, they are feeding their familes and they are going to do a good job or another person who is waiting in line could scoop up the job in an instant. I just bought a Gander Mtn. brand rod AND reel, and so far i am loving it lol. its my first baitcaster though, i've only been fishing for about two years now, not even, and i'm still learning. My GM brand rod and reel is bringing in fish though! So i've no complaints.

um i lived in Korea for 4 years .. my wife is Korean.. and well they are anal.. being anal is not a bad thing.. and when it comes to attention to detail.. it's a good thing...dobyns rods are made in Korea.. most likely by the same guy who makes Damiki rods... but you don't here people talking about damiki rods except us JDM freaks .. I'm a KDM freak too just not a whole lot out there yet

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Just because a rod (or anything else for that matter) is made in the states does not mean it is better then something made over seas... expecially those made in asian countries... Asians are super anal and the job market is extreamly competitive... work 12 hours a day 6 days a week for crap pay... but take extreme pride in what they do... quality is quality regardless of where it's made... take it from a guy who has worked lots of manufacturing jobs here in the states and seen many o peice of crap roll out the door it's not funny

Quality & pride = lead paint in our kids' toys and massive recalls in a large variety of products. But we put up with it.

Sure some of the stuff is good quality.

But don't kid yourself on mass produced stuff selling for cheap... it's monetary based. Lower pay, fewer compliance rules, a lot less overhead, etc. Factories doing contract work may turn out rods this week and easy bake ovens next week. They fill the quota and move on to the next product. (It's more likely they build Quantums this week and BPS rods next week. Just making an example up)

Lots of pictures available on this site: http://www.glcfishing.com/folders.asp - notice who uses their products on the right hand side.

The pic below is from the siliflash skirt factory. The lack chairs was the first thing that jumped out at me.

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S Korea and Japan yes........ China no. Thats why Dobyns moved from China to Korea because their rods had major quality issues.

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S Korea and Japan yes........ China no. Thats why Dobyns moved from China to Korea because their rods had major quality issues.

So you don't think the Shimano Cumara, Quantum KVD Tour, Cabelas XMLTi, Bass Pro Johnny Morris Elite, Fenwick HMG, or the Kistler Magnesium (for a few examples) are any good?  Those rods are all made in China.

I wish we hadn't lost so many of our manufacturing jobs here in the States, and I hope we can start to see more US based manufacturing in the future.  But any company that wants to survive is going to make their product in a location that gives them the best bang for their buck.  St Croix for example has opened up production in Mexico (certain series only) to stay competitive.

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S Korea and Japan yes........ China no. Thats why Dobyns moved from China to Korea because their rods had major quality issues.

So you don't think the Shimano Cumara, Quantum KVD Tour, Cabelas XMLTi, Bass Pro Johnny Morris Elite, Fenwick HMG, or the Kistler Magnesium (for a few examples) are any good? Those rods are all made in China.

I wish we hadn't lost so many of our manufacturing jobs here in the States, and I hope we can start to see more US based manufacturing in the future. But any company that wants to survive is going to make their product in a location that gives them the best bang for their buck. St Croix for example has opened up production in Mexico (certain series only) to stay competitive.

That's what I'm saying.... I'm all for American manufacturing and in times like today when our economy is in the crapper it's ok to want to help people find work and feed their families.. but i just don't get the whole American stuff is better just because it's made in America crap..so not true

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I didnt say American stuff was better because its American, notice I said Japanese/Korean was good. But China has no environmental/labor standards like those countries, their factories are based on quantity not quality. You might get something that works great from China but more often than not you dont. My own experience is with Daiwa, as a teen in the late 80's I bought their rods by DaiwaUSA and reels by DaiwaJP-stuff still works great today. So a couple of years ago I get back into bass fishing after a 15 year hiatus and bought new Daiwa now made in China. IM7 rods that are brittle and snap in two after 10 casts, Millionaire reels that wont cast right. Yes Daiwa stands by their products and fixes or replaces them but I never had such problems with the older stuff, and the older Millionaire reels are much smoother/cast further than the newer ones. Anyway I learned my lesson to stay away from the Chinese stuff.

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This guy has it right

It's made in Germany and we all know good stuff comes from Germany

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i always like the 'if its made in america , its better' arguments.

obviously , parts/materials/assembling is cheaper over seas. as long as quality control is met (or exceeded) to the company standards , its just as good as anywhere else. notice how most of your electronics (and just about everything else) are made over there ....

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This guy has it right

It's made in Germany and we all know good stuff comes from Germany

have you seen the 'remix' of the slap chop commercial? lmfao! i first seen it on espn watching the xgames. greatest ever.

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Again, read my posts I never made an argument that if its made in America its better, only talking about quality control issues of China............and everyone dislikes the ShamWow guy.

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Again, read my posts I never made an argument that if its made in America its better, only talking about quality control issues of China............and everyone dislikes the ShamWow guy.

Oh Goodness; this mook thinks I was making a valid point,

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I think everyone would be surprised if they knew how much JDM stuff originated in China, or most of the components came from China (such as rod blanks). A lure can be painted in China and have the hooks and packaging done in Japan and that lure will say made in Japan.

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Much like a lot of stuff coming from Asia, the labor unions aren't as much of a factor there as they are here in the US that demand much higher wages and benefits for workers which leads to lower costs for foreign-made products.  Sorry, but I tend to believe that it was the unions that put our auto manufacturers in the state they are in now.  Sure there are other factors but I still believe that the unions also played a major role in that as well.

As far as the sham-wow guy, does that lisp of his remind anyone else of Sid the Sloth in the Ice Age movies? :-?

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As far as the sham-wow guy, does that lisp of his remind anyone else of Sid the Sloth in the Ice Age movies? :-?

youre gonna love my nuts.

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Again, read my posts I never made an argument that if its made in America its better, only talking about quality control issues of China............and everyone dislikes the ShamWow guy.

Oh Goodness; this mook thinks I was making a valid point,

Don't be so hard on these new guys. And how did he get to be a MOOK and I'm not even one yet? I'm deeply hurt Muddy.

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