I sent an old green Curado to a guy in Alabama. He did some magic to it and it will throw a light weight bait a really long ways now.

I need to do this also.  I'm just not sure yet which ones I want to put the money into.

Im not knocking spinning gear but thats why there are finesse baitcast reels like the steez and core 50. Trust me when matched with high end rods, they throw light baits really well and I dont have to deal with line twists.

if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

I just threw a DT4 on my gram scale, 9.22 grams. #5 shad rap is 5.15 grams, nearly half the weight. These weights are hooks and all. Thats quite a difference in weight. You are incredible, I wouldn't bother to try throwing a #5 shad rap on a baitcasting rig.

dont be such a *****.

if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

I just threw a DT4 on my gram scale, 9.22 grams. #5 shad rap is 5.15 grams, nearly half the weight. These weights are hooks and all. Thats quite a difference in weight. You are incredible, I wouldn't bother to try throwing a #5 shad rap on a baitcasting rig.

Knowing Skunked Again, and  what Avid said: I will put my money on Skunked Again. I use spinning gear, I lack in Bait casting skills for smaller stuff, no problem for me. It can be done Jeff, I am sure there are many here that can toss a #5 with BC equipment , I saw guys from here throw small finesse plastics with Bait Casting equipment. You would be amazed at what t an accomplished caster can throw with the right equipment

I'm not knocking spinning dear but that's why there are finesse bait cast reels like the steez and core 50. Trust me when matched with high end rods, they throw light baits really well and I dont have to deal with line twists.

Hey Steezy ; I can't talk about the high end stuff; I can't afford it and do not use it

I can talk about spinning gear and I can tell you that for many years I have used Pflueger Presidents on Fenwick spinning rods and by doing 3 things consistently I HAVE NO TWIST ISSUES AT ALL

1. Make sure the line is going onto the spool reel , in the same direction it comes off the feeder spool

2. Never reel In while the fish is taking drag

3. Use a Swivel ( no snap) on the tag end of your line and 12 inches of leader to the bait

I have spent countless hours of twist free time on the water by doing these 3 simple things

I have 4 BC rigs for regular and heavier stuff

but am sticking with the spinning because I am clumsy and a slow learner 8-)

if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

I just threw a DT4 on my gram scale, 9.22 grams. #5 shad rap is 5.15 grams, nearly half the weight. These weights are hooks and all. Thats quite a difference in weight. You are incredible, I wouldn't bother to try throwing a #5 shad rap on a baitcasting rig.

Knowing Skunked Again, and what Avid said: I will put my money on Skunked Again. I use spinning gear, I lack in Bait casting skills for smaller stuff, no problem for me. It can be done Jeff, I am sure there are many here that can toss a #5 with BC equipment , I saw guys from here throw small finesse plastics with Bait Casting equipment. You would be amazed at what t an accomplished caster can throw with the right equipment

thanks Dom.

this debate isnt really worth all this bickering. a question was asked and the question was answered in the 3rd and 4th post. everything else is personal experience.

tossing a #5 shad rap isnt that big of a deal. the problem comes when the bait "helicopters" in the air after the cast. im not sure but i dont think the gear you use affects that.

have a good day, hug a kid, so on and so fourth..

if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

I just threw a DT4 on my gram scale, 9.22 grams. #5 shad rap is 5.15 grams, nearly half the weight. These weights are hooks and all. Thats quite a difference in weight. You are incredible, I wouldn't bother to try throwing a #5 shad rap on a baitcasting rig.

The only gram measurement I'm familiar with is 3.5 grams, which is an 1/8th, or 7 grams which is a 1/4.  Don't ask me the significance of that  

if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

I just threw a DT4 on my gram scale, 9.22 grams. #5 shad rap is 5.15 grams, nearly half the weight. These weights are hooks and all. Thats quite a difference in weight. You are incredible, I wouldn't bother to try throwing a #5 shad rap on a baitcasting rig.

The only gram measurement I'm familiar with is 3.5 grams, which is an 1/8th, or 7 grams which is a 1/4. Don't ask me the significance of that

per rapala.com the dt-4 is about 8.8 grams and the #5 is 5.3 grams. 28.3 grams to an oz.

but like you said.......lol

You guys are right. What insignificant BS. What does it matter really? I mean, it's like a guy switching from a 1/4 oz sinker to 3/8 oz for whatever crazy reason....it's only 1/8 oz right. I get it now, DUH!

BTW, you didn't need to call me a *****, I really was conceding that it is pretty amazing to me that you, or anyone else can toss a 5 gram weight in the form of a balsa crankbait with baitcasting gear any respectable distance. I'm sure with the thumb smiley it helped cast the wrong impression.

I can't do it, not with the reels I have and the line I choose to use. I don't mean to imply it's impossible, but when things get that light it's just easier for me to pick up a spinning rig and do a better job.

OKAY , you 2 mooks knock it off, Im the *****; there feel better ;D

OKAY , you 2 mooks knock it off, Im the *****; there feel better ;D

A big one or small one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not tonight you ain't  I'll wear the dunce cap tonight that I've earned.

I'm not sure??  Did THAT post come across as me being a dickhead too?  If it did, than I need new vocab and better sentence structure I guess.  I don't know how to state my position any clearer.  I really am impressed that some guys can do that.  I've tried and I know I can't.  I can throw my DT4's on my lighter crankin rig but thats about as low as I can go with wood.

Not tonight you ain't I'll wear the dunce cap tonight that I've earned.

I'm not sure?? Did THAT post come across as me being a dickhead too? If it did, than I need new vocab and better sentence structure I guess. I don't know how to state my position any clearer. I really am impressed that some guys can do that. I've tried and I know I can't. I can throw my DT4's on my lighter crankin rig but thats about as low as I can go with wood.

to me tossing a #5 isnt impressive. reading Reel Mech, Tin, Raul, Jimzee, J Francho, the list goes on and on and on and on impresses me.

you dont get to know what they know reading a web site.

i am nothing more than a fly on the wall soaking in a few things and sharing what little i have and know.

OKAY , you 2 mooks knock it off, Im the *****; there feel better ;D

A big one or small one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ill give you a hint; It's de plane boss , de plane

I think my post went over everyone's head.  

I think my post went over everyone's head.

I thought it was pretty funny... 8-)

I agree with Raul that the Pixy is the top of the food chain when it comes to finesse baitcasting.  With a little "tweaking" the reel can do even more.  I use a CR 721 IMX and another custom 7'ML rod with Pixzillas and have no trouble casting #5 shad raps and other very light presentations typically reserved for spinning gear.

I think my post went over everyone's head.

nope. seen it right away.

BTW.......i heard Muddy could cast a line with just an overhand knot tied on the end 45 yards..........lol

I have developed a way to cast a FLY with a baitcaster

1. Pick Target

2. Boat over to target and place fly in water

3. Using just low speed on trolling motor, travel 35 yrads in one direction

4.Stop boat and reel in

works for me

Well, I thought he was talking about weed, shows how much I know about that.

I think my post went over everyone's head.

Dont forget the extra gram for the bag