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Does anybody know if its possible to throw a good long cast with like a 1/16 oz jig or even a 1/8 oz jig on a baitcaster without using any split shots or weights? And if you can, what brand and model baitcaster do you have?

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 You really have to factor the rod into this for throwing that light of weights. Sorry, this won't answer your question. If you are thinking about buying a bitcaster for this, get yourself a decent spinning reel. I can do it with my Citica 200D but there's no way I can get the distance. IMHO don't try to use a tool for something it wasn't made for :)...

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With the right rod and the right reel you can. I use a BCR802 and a Daiwa Sol with 8lb line and cast 1/8 oz baits all the time. I do not have any that are 1/16oz that I have ever tried. But this is possible with the right combination.

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Does anybody know if its possible to throw a good long cast with like a 1/16 oz jig or even a 1/8 oz jig on a baitcaster without using any split shots or weights? And if you can, what brand and model baitcaster do you have?

Reels that can do that with ease:

Domestic.-

Curado 100D

Chronarch 50 Mg

Sol

TDZ105H

Import.-

Alphas 103

Alphas Itö

Alphas Type F

Alphas R Edition

Scorpion 1000

Scorpion 1000 Mg

And the king of kings ---> Liberto Pixy

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Does anybody know if its possible to throw a good long cast with like a 1/16 oz jig or even a 1/8 oz jig on a baitcaster without using any split shots or weights? And if you can, what brand and model baitcaster do you have?

Reels that can do that with ease:

Domestic.-

Curado 100D

Chronarch 50 Mg

Sol

TDZ105H

Import.-

Alphas 103

Alphas Itö

Alphas Type F

Alphas R Edition

Scorpion 1000

Scorpion 1000 Mg

And the king of kings ---> Liberto Pixy

Don't forget the Shimano Core 50MG or Daiwa Steez, they can do it ! (just costs more)

Also, like others said, a good Rod will really help.

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Bass Pro EXtreme Lite or Prolite reel with a good ML rod and 6 or 8 lb test.

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The key to casting light lures far with BC gear is in the cast itself. After setting your brakes/tension to the proper setting (lure stops when it hits the water on a free fall from about 4 feet up--I set mine a little looser though) anyway, a lob cast is the key here. Not a whip cast. Just gently but strongly lob the bait, more of a sling than a lob really, just not the whip like you would a worm or jig. After a little practice and figuring when and at what angle of the cast to apply the most strength, you'll be getting those lighties on out there.

Hope this makes sense hard to articulate but not hard to demonstrate.

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The key to casting light lures far with BC gear is in the cast itself. After setting your brakes/tension to the proper setting (lure stops when it hits the water on a free fall from about 4 feet up--I set mine a little looser though) anyway, a lob cast is the key here. Not a whip cast. Just gently but strongly lob the bait, more of a sling than a lob really, just not the whip like you would a worm or jig. After a little practice and figuring when and at what angle of the cast to apply the most strength, you'll be getting those lighties on out there.

Hope this makes sense hard to articulate but not hard to demonstrate.

I know exactly what you are speaking of, and I would say this holds true for every casting reel that isn't designed to throw light weight baits. Kind of a cast where you use your arm to cast the bait versus flinging it with your wrist. Light weight baits just can't provide the inertia needed to immediately accelerate a spool with 140yds of line on it. However, with the right technique, you can adequately cast lighter baits even with larger spools. For the record, with a pixy, you don't have to alter your casting technique at all....you can fling 1/8oz baits without worry of backlashing....it's pretty magical. I bet the Core 50 is pretty close, but the Pixy's line capacity makes it unbeatable in the small bait department (line is heavy...less line=lighter spool)

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I have a Daiwa Sol and an Carrot Stix Gold that I use for shallow cranks and jerk baits.  I have recently been using the Owner Cultiva baits, specifically the Savory Shad and Rip'n Minnow.  These baits are light, the Rip'n Minnow 70 weighs 1/5 oz and the 65 sp even lighter, maybe 1/8 oz.  This combo allows me to throw these about 50-80 ft, fish from the bank and the spot I fish has a treeline 50ft out or so, so I can place these baits where I need them without trouble.  I also use 12lb P-Line Flouro-clear on the rig so I know a lighter line would result in a little more distance.

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I have a Daiwa TDZ and a loomis cr721 that can throw just about anything.   I actually had a time there where being able to toss really light baits, like a zoom finesse worm, on a baitcaster was a source of pride for me.  

the novelty wore off, and I use a spinning outfit for light stuff.. I mean that's what their made for right?

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"Spinning" gear provides the full range of freshwater tackle-classes from panfish to muskellunge (2-lb to 20-lb).

"Baitcasting" however does not, because a revolving-drum is ill-suited to the light end of the range.

Roger

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"Spinning" gear provides the full range of freshwater tackle-classes from panfish to muskellunge (2-lb to 20-lb).

Roger

Yeah, and you you won 't have to shell out 200+ dollars to get a reel capable of casting teeny tiny baits.  :)

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I have to chuckle when I see guys throwing a lightweight crank, or topwater with a bc, and they barley get it out 25', when a spinning rig would put it out Much further to cover more water and possibly catch more fish.. :)

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I have to chuckle when I see guys throwing a lightweight crank, or topwater with a bc, and they barley get it out 25', when a spinning rig would put it out Much further to cover more water and possibly catch more fish.. :)

youd chuckle at me a lot. i suck with a spinning reel. ive bought the good gear and i still couldnt hit the broad side of a barn. the Sols i have let me cast the light stuff....thank god.

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So, you can throw a #5 Shad Rap just as well with a baitcaster as somebody could with a spinning rig?  I'd like to see this....especially if there is any wind present.

I know that I can toss a 1/8 oz Snagless Slider w/Producto 4" worm with my Revo SX but I can do a MUCH better job (accuracy and distance) with my spinning rigs for light stuff such as this.  

And.... what do you tell guys that say "I suck with a baitcaster"??  I bet you'd tell them to practice, right?? :)

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I would go with smaller # line and make sure u fill your spool up all the way.No matter what reel I'm using i can cast farther when the spool is full.

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I have the same problem as skunked again, distance with spinning gear is no problem but after 2 or 3 casts I do the same thing as when I golf using a wood-I hook or slice. Now I only use irons when golfing even if it means losing a little distance and only use spinning tackle for skipping docks.

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I have to chuckle when I see guys throwing a lightweight crank, or topwater with a bc, and they barley get it out 25', when a spinning rig would put it out Much further to cover more water and possibly catch more fish.. :)

There are several baitcasters that can throw a lightweight bait much farther than 25', and they don't come with all of the problems spinning reels create.

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I sent an old green Curado to a guy in Alabama.  He did some magic to it and it will throw a light weight bait a really long ways now.

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So, you can throw a #5 Shad Rap just as well with a baitcaster as somebody could with a spinning rig? I'd like to see this....especially if there is any wind present.

I know that I can toss a 1/8 oz Snagless Slider w/Producto 4" worm with my Revo SX but I can do a MUCH better job (accuracy and distance) with my spinning rigs for light stuff such as this.

And.... what do you tell guys that say "I suck with a baitcaster"?? I bet you'd tell them to practice, right?? :)

if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

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I am sorry, but I would not be caught dead cranking in a 1/8 buzz on a spinning setup for a day nooooo way! Monday I will let you know how the Revo STX does. that is what I ordered it for. I was using an old Abu MagPlus ext but it finally crapped out on me. :'(

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if youre referring to me im talking about my skills with my gear. and yes, im much better with a baitcaster when tossing #5 shad raps, its no different than tossing a DT-4. i have very good distance and drop the bait close to where i want it.

I just threw a DT4 on my gram scale, 9.22 grams.  #5 shad rap is 5.15 grams, nearly half the weight.   These weights are hooks and all.  Thats quite a difference in weight.  You are incredible, I wouldn't bother to try throwing a #5 shad rap on a baitcasting rig.

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