talked to the shimano guys today and found out that the 16 strand line that is supposed to come out is a ''hollow '' braid , primarily used for salt water fishing by using a leader , knotless ( inserting the leader into the hollow braid , not a easy or fun task ) so i guess no really big changes for the power pro we use for bass fishing . i will continue to still use it , love the stuff , was looking foward to a little smoother line cause of the 16 strands , but i got the real deal from shimano today .....  :)

Hopefully Bantam1 will be around Monday to explain.

Is there a braid out there that's smoother than the current Power Pro??

I think that's been answered a few times before.  I suggest trying a search to see what you can find.   

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?action=search

Is there a braid out there that's smoother than the current Power Pro??

Sufix, Daiwa Samurai, Stren.....

and the best braid made.

Everybody has their favorites.  Suffice to say, there's no need to list them all. 

The hollow works very well even for freshwater. Attaching leaders is much easier and the stuff casts better than anything else I have used before. Its good stuff but it will only be in 40+ pound strengths for now. We are still working on some other stuff. I have been using the new line for a few months now and I love it. Eventually I think the knotless connection will catch on in freshwater like it has in the salt. It casts better and there is no knot to fail. Its also very easy to rig.

Someone here is dumb and was not supposed to talk about the new product that will not be released until next year. Oh well too late now...

Bantam 1 I am looking forward to trying braid this spring and like the idea of a knotless leader connection. I am not currently a member of the Shimano posse, but I can be persuaded. I volunteer my services to be part of the pre-release testing team. ;D

The hollow works very well even for freshwater. Attaching leaders is much easier and the stuff casts better than anything else I have used before. Its good stuff but it will only be in 40+ pound strengths for now. We are still working on some other stuff. I have been using the new line for a few months now and I love it. Eventually I think the knotless connection will catch on in freshwater like it has in the salt. It casts better and there is no knot to fail. Its also very easy to rig.

Someone here is dumb and was not supposed to talk about the new product that will not be released until next year. Oh well too late now...

it was your Shimano rep at the Bass-a-Thon !!!!  :

The hollow works very well even for freshwater. Attaching leaders is much easier and the stuff casts better than anything else I have used before. Its good stuff but it will only be in 40+ pound strengths for now. We are still working on some other stuff. I have been using the new line for a few months now and I love it. Eventually I think the knotless connection will catch on in freshwater like it has in the salt. It casts better and there is no knot to fail. Its also very easy to rig.

Someone here is dumb and was not supposed to talk about the new product that will not be released until next year. Oh well too late now...

it was your Shimano rep at the Bass-a-Thon !!!! :

He was referring to himself.

The hollow works very well even for freshwater. Attaching leaders is much easier and the stuff casts better than anything else I have used before. Its good stuff but it will only be in 40+ pound strengths for now. We are still working on some other stuff. I have been using the new line for a few months now and I love it. Eventually I think the knotless connection will catch on in freshwater like it has in the salt. It casts better and there is no knot to fail. Its also very easy to rig.

Someone here is dumb and was not supposed to talk about the new product that will not be released until next year. Oh well too late now...

it was your Shimano rep at the Bass-a-Thon !!!! :

He was referring to himself.

by ''someone here'' i was thinking some one from shimano .

So, the concept for the knotless leader is that the leader goes inside of the braid ala the "Chinese Finger Trap" ?  The more you pull on the leader the tighter the grip ? 

So, the concept for the knotless leader is that the leader goes inside of the braid ala the "Chinese Finger Trap" ? The more you pull on the leader the tighter the grip ?

that is it 

That's amazing.  How well does the whole knot-less thing really work though? 

Does the line ever just fall out?  Or is it pretty fail safe?