Blood dosen't drip back and up that deer has gotta be moving when that pic was taken I say real.

Fake

I would have to say it's real, but it's iffy. I've seen pics from my buddys cam that look transpearant. Either way, thats cool.

i think real. those out door cameras will do funny things. if thats one of those cameras give you like 30 seconds of video after motion detector turns the unit on having a "transpirant" look to snap-shot of the film is normal.

i assume the shoulder bone on the other side stopped the arrow. great shot placement.

Given the location of the arrow & its downward angle it's a perfect heart/lung shot; is it a real photo? Can't say but it's cool!

That is something you can't do now unless you have photoshop. I think it is pretty obvious that it is a double exposed photo.

                    -sm

That is something you can't do now unless you have photoshop. I think it is pretty obvious that it is a double exposed photo.

                  -sm

why isnt the bottom of the deer as transpirant as the top the the deer?

i think the deer jump up as the arrow struck and that pic is a still taken from the video.

or i could be 100% wrong ;D ;D

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=769560&page=9

Owners of Cuddeback photo

Brian and Logan Hacker,

Thank you to Cousin Don Hacker for notifying us on Sunday afternoon October 12th, that Logan's buck photo had been posted on line and where it originated we are not sure as we had just shared it with Cuddeback first off for them to declare rights to the picture if they so desired and secondly to a couple friends and family that were interested.

We intentionally had kept the photo in somewhat of a limited exposure because of major reactions we were getting around our small town of Luck, Wisconsin until we could decide just what to do and who to notify of this non typical picture off of our Cuddeback Capture trail camera.

Don Hacker had been waiting for us to e-mail him the photo as he had heard a lot about it from family. With Don's involvement in different websites Don stumbled on it and sent it to us asking if this was Logan's Cuddeback Deer Photo. Well, that is exactly how this got started on Sunday and with my wife and I holding down full time jobs and Logan very busy in school and High School Football practice and games last night was finally the night for us to finally clear up everyone's negative and thank you to the positive replies to our once in a lifetime photo. After getting all registered and finally getting our personal story together we lost connection so we are attempting it again. We feel it is most important for all you hunters out there to realize this IS a real photo.

Logan is a very avid sports minded hunter that has spent countless hours preparing for the season by getting his stand ready, hunting gear and making time to enjoy the outdoors and wild life by being a very patient young hunter because of his love for just being in the woods with his friends or Grandpa to observe several 1 ½ yr. bucks that he had passed up due to herd management. He is always thinking beyond the moment and we are proud of him for that.

With our busy schedule he does not get out to retrieve his chip in the camera as often as he would like but when he makes his quick trip out after school activities (when time permits) he has a complete night of viewing all kinds of deer and other wild life which keeps him up too late on school nights but it all paid off with the photo that he did capture and didn't even realize it.

So the story goes, Logan and his friend Brandon also of Luck ,Wisconsin went out 9/20/08 bow hunting as it was a beautiful evening. They enjoyed watching several deer before this 8 point buck came up from a watering hole, stopped put his head down and Logan let fire. It was about a 12 yard shot with the deer jumping straight up in the air and traveled approximately 50 yards before they heard him drop. They waited just a couple minutes before coming out of the tree stand to find his FIRST buck with his bow, how exciting for him. Logan and Brandon found the deer, field dressed and brought it home on the four wheeler. He called us as we had gone to a golf benefit to tell us that he had shot a buck and had gotten it home and was very excited. We went home to see as it was as exciting for us as parents as it was for him. The deer was registered and processed. The photos that we carried were that off our regular digital camera showing friends and family Logan and his first deer (buck) with his bow. Logan was pretty proud of that and brought his pictures to school. Then things got more interesting:

Not until the following Thursday September 25 was Logan able to get back out to his stand to retrieve his camera chip. He again brought his buddy Brandon out on the four wheeler just to check things out and get his chip for them to review and ooh and ahh over what had been coming in over the last few days. Logan brought the chip home, downloaded to the computer and then they began to review only to find this once in a lifetime photo that they had absolutely no idea had been captured on the trail camera. Who would ever believe that a person could capture such a clear, full view, detailed shot as this one???? What can a person say, this is truly a ONCE in a life time ordeal.

As one of his teacher stated, You would have a better chance at winning the lottery than capturing a photo like this. That was enough for our interest to peak so we contacted Eric at Cuddeback and he had us forward the picture for his review. After his review he stated that was truly exceptional and asked what model camera had taken this photo. We told him it was the Capture model. He was a bit disappointed to tell us that it was too graphic for them to post on their web site or for advertising purposes. He stated that they have to be very careful as to what they could actually publish because of Peta and so forth. He thanked us for forwarding the original photo and stated that he would keep it in a confidential file as they would not be able to use it because of us having the copyright to this photo.

3 things that stand out to me... first, all the trail cams I've seen and used have a slight delay in them, and then a delay in successive shots. (I checked, that model has a less than 1/3 second trigger and a 30 second delay between shots) I can't figure out how they camera hadn't already taken the pic from the other deer in the background walking through, even if the shot deer hadn't yet tripped it.  And if the shot deer tripped it, wouldn't it have tripped prior to the shot as the deer walked into view?   Coincidence or malfunction, maybe.

The second thing is the amount of blood on impact. I've killed a number of deer with a bow and between me and friends we have videotaped a bunch of shots. Never have I seen that kind of blood on the entry side on impact, whether live or on tape. Possible, sure.

Lastly, the "story" is odd... why the background story, the case built for copyright and the hunt story all wrapped up together? It could be 100% legit, but combined with the other things, it all looks fishy to me.

But it's a cool picture, no matter what the origin or story.

That's my skepticism for today.  ...lol

That is something you can't do now unless you have photoshop. I think it is pretty obvious that it is a double exposed photo.

                  -sm

That type of editing is EXTREMELY easy with Photoshop, especially with the edges being erased, that makes it easier to blur them into the background so you don't have to be as precise while cutting the one picture to put into the other...

Anywho, I don't care if it is real, it's cool either way.

he was laying down and then it was photo shopped the hoofs aint right for leaping even though a deer can run a few yrds or more when shot with a arrow ,,,I have had deer walk around 3 or 4 mins after a perfect vital shot then drop arows dont have very much impact its all about making a deer lose blood as fast as possible

Yep, it was dead.  Because all deer die with their legs sticking straight out.  :

  I am assuming that picture was taken at impact.   I will say, I have seen alot of deer jump on impact, so thats not unusual.    

Considering the arrow was still plugging the hole, there appeared to be to much blood from the entry hole initially after impact.   Maybe if that deer ran some, but again, I am assuming this is at initital impact.

I have quite a few pictures of deer hanging in the trees over the years.   So that picture could have been taking while hanging and you want see a variation of the head posture angled as mentioned "if" the deer was on the ground, its neck would be bent.

      And last.   Deer in our part of the woods don't normally have the brush beaten horns just yet.     White!!!!   This time of the year, bow hunters are some of the luckiest, they get what we call chocolate horns.   They are darker in September.    

I don't know alot about other regions and when the rut actually starts up north.    This time of the year, our deer may have white tips because they have started to mock fight some brush, but the majority still have blood stained horns, or as we call them chocolate.  

Horns that white start appearing before the rut.    That deer has marked alot of scrapes already.   Does this deer appear to be in rut?   Swollen neck, hocks real dark from glandular secretions that take place during the rut?

Seen a bunch of Bow hunting shows that slow the pass through shot down.   Don't ever recall seeing that kind of blood shown by expensive equipment.     Don't recall seeing that much blood on the entry side after a deer has ran awhile either.

Being its was downward shot, most blood drains into the cavity rather than flowing out the side.    I'd understand the exit wound bleeding cause the exit wound would be lower, thus draingae would come from the lowiest point, and that arrow didn't pass through.    Just like a gut shot deer, its the hardiest to trail.     Most deer bleedout on the inside because the wound is up on thier sides.  Thus the blood pool in in the stomach and not on the ground.

Seems to me that picture would be real fuzzy.   The deer was rodeoing in mid air and its clear as day.    Try taking a shot of a stock car passing in front of you,   They are blurred at best.

Just my reasoning on why I said fake.