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NASCAR screwed up again!

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Changing the scoring system. 43 points to the winner, 1 point to the 43rd place car. 3 points bonus to the race winner, 1 point bonus for leading a lap, 1 point bonus for leading the most laps.

I just do not see what the problem is with rewarding a very consistent driver with a championship? Winning isn't everything. Almost like Ricky Bobby took over the ruling body and infected them with the 'If you're not first, you're last' disease.

They keep throwing crap on the walls and seeing which turd will stick.

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I am not sure yet if nascar screwed it up yet. I think nascar is getting sick of the same guy winning all the championship every year. I believe they have seen how other racing series have closer championships going in to the final race.

The last three years the f1 championship has been won buy 11 points or less. In 2008 the f1 champion ship was won by one point. The guy that won the race thought he won the race and championship. As he was on his cool down lap celebrating. They guy that he needed to finish 6th or worst passed a guy that ran out of fuel in the last turn on the final lap. That bumped him up to 5th place. Seeing the look on the team that thought they won the championship 30 seconds before was great.

I don't know about you but I would love to see some thing like that in nascar. I also heard that there doing some thing like a wild card for the last two spots in the chase. I don't know if its true but if it is I am done with nascar.

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I don't think the new rules will be too bad. I think winning is more important than being consistent, but that's just me.

Even if you don't win, but place well each race, you are still going to get a lot of points.

I also heard they are thinking about shortening the races. I like that idea as well.

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i hope they dont shorten the races, that would be a really dumb idea.

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It would be interesting to see what the results of the last couple years would've been using this new point system.

It would be nice if they would quit having those phantom caution flags near the end of each race too.

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Indy 350????

Races can go too long and NASCAR is investigating the possibility of shortening them.

New point system will award the drivers who win the most races by giving them a wild card slot in the Chase.

The new points system will be easier to understand and figure out where the driver has to finish to make the Chase or move up in the standings.  :)

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NASCAR is desperately trying anything and everything they can to reverse their dropping ratings and to fill the stands.

NASCAR shot themselves in the foot when they abandoned their long time, die hard fans to woo the wine, cheese, and croissant crowd.

The found out those they wanted were fickle, and chased fads.  They offended those who brought them to the dance. slapped them in the face, in effect telling them, we don't want you and your damned rebel flags.

You don't do that to people without consequences. 

The point system won't change a thing.  It's a distinction without a difference.

Wanna make it interesting?  Make every car qualify to make the race, like they do in the NHRA.  None of this, the top 35 in points make the race regardless.  Make qualifying mean something.  That will put folks in the stands for qualifying.

If the points leader just has to start the final race to win the championship, they might as well hand it to him.  He's automatically in the race.  But if he actually has to race his way in................

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NASCAR is desperately trying anything and everything they can to reverse their dropping ratings and to fill the stands.

NASCAR shot themselves in the foot when they abandoned their long time, die hard fans to woo the wine, cheese, and croissant crowd.

The found out those they wanted were fickle, and chased fads. They offended those who brought them to the dance. slapped them in the face, in effect telling them, we don't want you and your damned rebel flags.

You don't do that to people without consequences.

The point system won't change a thing. It's a distinction without a difference.

Wanna make it interesting? Make every car qualify to make the race, like they do in the NHRA. None of this, the top 35 in points make the race regardless. Make qualifying mean something. That will put folks in the stands for qualifying.

If the points leader just has to start the final race to win the championship, they might as well hand it to him. He's automatically in the race. But if he actually has to race his way in................

Agree with all that.  They do need to reward the winner of a race significantly more than the rest and the top five as well.  This would do away with point racing where there is really no racing at all and force them to go out and actually try to win.  Nascar garnered such a following because they would go out and beat and bang and crash and do whatever it took to WIN not place. 

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The real issue is the money behind the car or

team. A few guys will win due to some fluke,

but for the most part, less than half the field

is in contention. The rest are just filler.

:-X

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They are scrambling for money since they are losing Dale Jr as cash cow since he hasn't one in 2 years.....

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I believe NASCAR screwed up again by allowing another year of this to actually fill the airwaves. 

I use to love racing- in recent years it just turns my stomach.

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They are scrambling for money since they are losing Dale Jr as cash cow since he hasn't one in 2 years.....

That is insignificant.   If JR could drive a race car and WON a race or two, viewership would stay much the same.  Its not like JR fans still don't turn out in droves even though he is only an average driver.

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Yea i know I'm a Jr fan was really being serious with that comment.

Many of you have said that Nascar is pushing away its grassroot fanbase and they have.  Nascar has tried to get rid of the alcoholic sponsors and tobacco sponsors but they need to realize that's where the money was from the very beginning and thats where it still is. Most people don't care about the advertising on a car so there really was no one they were offending but Nascar wanted to become more mainstream so they thought they needed to get rid of the old and replace with the new. In a pretty brunt statement the new sucks.

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Many of you have said that Nascar is pushing away its grassroot fanbase and they have. Nascar has tried to get rid of the alcoholic sponsors and tobacco sponsors but they need to realize that's where the money was from the very beginning and thats where it still is. Most people don't care about the advertising on a car so there really was no one they were offending but Nascar wanted to become more mainstream so they thought they needed to get rid of the old and replace with the new. In a pretty brunt statement the new sucks.

Not even close.  NASCAR has done nothing to push away alcoholic sponsors, even opening up to hard liquor companies after years of limiting it to only beer companies.  As for tobacco, NASCAR hated to lose that relationship, but that was due to federal law, not because NASCAR wanted to cut ties.

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Most people don't care about the advertising on a car so there really was no one they were offending but Nascar wanted to become more mainstream so they thought they needed to get rid of the old and replace with the new.

Actually Nascar fans are very brand loyal to what is on their favorite drivers car.  They will buy what is on their drivers car and detest and void like the plaque whatever is on the car of a driver they don't like.  That has been proven over the years many times.

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Most people don't care about the advertising on a car so there really was no one they were offending but Nascar wanted to become more mainstream so they thought they needed to get rid of the old and replace with the new.

Actually Nascar fans are very brand loyal to what is on their favorite drivers car. They will buy what is on their drivers car and detest and void like the plaque whatever is on the car of a driver they don't like. That has been proven over the years many times.

But that still based on the driver. People, most of the time, will like or want the product based on the driver.  Budweiser was very big in nascar when Dale Jr  was sponsored by them but they aren't as big as they were after Jr moved to Hendrick

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Yeah people really quit drinking Budweiser and switched to Mt. Dew since JR went to Hendrick......  ::)

There has been no change in Bud's commitment to NASCAR and vice versa since it went with Kahne, and I dont expect it to be any different this year with Harvick.

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In my personal opinion, ever since it went from the Winston Cup to the whatever phone company took over cup, NASCAR has gone down hill.

I just don't understand why the Gov said no Tobacco on tv? If those were still allowed I bet NASCAR and its teams would have much more money.

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Yeah people really quit drinking Budweiser and switched to Mt. Dew since JR went to Hendrick...... ::)

There has been no change in Bud's commitment to NASCAR and vice versa since it went with Kahne, and I dont expect it to be any different this year with Harvick.

Not what I'm saying, I just have seen less driver base  advertisements then there was with junior.

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The last straw for me was when they quit racing stock cars and went to this IROC-inspired car of tomorrow.

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i think they should kick jr out of nascar lol, he is so bad at racing in my opinion, im just waiting for danica patrick to beat him one day so i can laugh.

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NASCAR is desperately trying anything and everything they can to reverse their dropping ratings and to fill the stands.

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They lose me when they show the races on cable only. Havent had cable for 14 years. Put races back on network over the air.

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To me nascar is losing there fans for many reasons all ready stated.But nascar is not the only racing series losing fans. Every series across the globe is losing them. Its not tv thats doing this. Its the way there ran.

Putting almost 3/4 if the season on cable to me is one main reason. They also need to cut back on the races that are run. Its like baseball you care for the first few months of the new year. Come June unless your a hard core baseball fan you really don't care again in till fall. To me the nascar racing season is to long.

That's what I love about f1. They only race 18-20 races a year. They go from mid march to the end of November. Every race matters in f1.   

At lest nascar Is not run by a guy that should be in a padded room. Though he is close to being in there. some time you guys need to google Bernie Ecclestone Ideas for f1. Some of them are out right crazy. Here are a few he has though of. Short cuts on the tracks. Medals instead of points kind of like the olympics. What he wanted was they driver with the most first places medals won the championship.

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