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Anyone have any experience snagging these guys?

I went for the first time yesterday on the IL river and what a blast. I got a general idea on how to hook them after a little practice. Definately the strongest fighting fresh water fish I've ever tangled with. I can see already I need to get some special tackle for them. These 20 lbers made my bass tackle seem like toy tackle.

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I'm against snagging any fish because this has nothing to do with fishing. If you cant catch them leave them alone. ;)

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I'm against snagging any fish because this has nothing to do with fishing. If you cant catch them leave them alone. ;)

Asian carp have no business in American waters. They escaped from fish farms into central U.S. waterways during flooding and threaten to drive out native species. There is a huge battle going on right now to keep them out of the Great Lakes. Snag as many as you can. Don't throw any back. This is a serious problem that has been highlighted on several national news reports.

Watch this story from CNN to learn more

http://moldychum.typepad.com/moldy_chum/2007/06/cnn-reporter-le.html

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I'm against snagging any fish because this has nothing to do with fishing. If you cant catch them leave them alone. ;)

Asian carp have no business in American waters. They escaped from fish farms into central U.S. waterways during flooding and threaten to drive out native species. There is a huge battle going on right now to keep them out of the Great Lakes. Snag as many as you can. Don't throw any back. This is a serious problem that has been highlighted on several national news reports.

Watch this story from CNN to learn more

http://moldychum.typepad.com/moldy_chum/2007/06/cnn-reporter-le.html

Dude...If your going to keep a fish at least eat it dont just kill it for the sake of killing it. Also I dont get why people HATE carp so much. They grow to huge sizes and put up a huge fight. Its like haveing a torpedo on the end of your line. They are not a trash fish at all. Infact they are a GREAT game fish. Also they are not that bad for the native species such as bass, catfish, panfish,crappie, trout that we like to catch. They are a vegetarian fish. The lakes I fish have both bass and carp in them and the carp population is not out of control and the bass population is very stable. Also in most parts of the united states large mouth bass are not a native species if I am not mistaken and they do not damage the population of other fish in the lakes. They have now become the most targed and favorite fish of most united states fishermen.

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I despise carp.  One of the private lakes I fish at requests that you kill all carp you catch.  I abide by the rules. :)

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I'm against snagging any fish because this has nothing to do with fishing. If you cant catch them leave them alone. ;)

Asian carp have no business in American waters. They escaped from fish farms into central U.S. waterways during flooding and threaten to drive out native species. There is a huge battle going on right now to keep them out of the Great Lakes. Snag as many as you can. Don't throw any back. This is a serious problem that has been highlighted on several national news reports.

Watch this story from CNN to learn more

http://moldychum.typepad.com/moldy_chum/2007/06/cnn-reporter-le.html

Dude...If your going to keep a fish at least eat it dont just kill it for the sake of killing it. Also I dont get why people HATE carp so much. They grow to huge sizes and put up a huge fight. Its like haveing a torpedo on the end of your line. They are not a trash fish at all. Infact they are a GREAT game fish. Also they are not that bad for the native species such as bass, catfish, panfish,crappie, trout that we like to catch. They are a vegetarian fish. The lakes I fish have both bass and carp in them and the carp population is not out of control and the bass population is very stable. Also in most parts of the united states large mouth bass are not a native species if I am not mistaken and they do not damage the population of other fish in the lakes. They have now become the most targed and favorite fish of most united states fishermen.

Asian carp are NOT like common carp (which are not vegetarian) or grass carp which do not reproduce. PLEASE watch the story, and you will see what I mean. These fish are a menace. They are filter feeders, so the only way to catch them is snagging, netting, or with a baseball mitt. Again, watch the story...it's quite entertaining.

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I'm against snagging any fish because this has nothing to do with fishing. If you cant catch them leave them alone. ;)

I use to say the same thing until I saw how fast and big of a change these fish can change a waterway. In a decade they have become the most abundant (by weight) fish in the river. They are filter feeders so the compete directly with gizzard shad and most fish frys for food. Their effects on other species are just now being felt, so its hard to predict what will happen in the next decade. So there is a reason these are the only fish you are permitted to harvest by snagging.

We could debate the ethics of snagging till we're blue in the face. One thing which is ironic, if these were mammals it would be unethical to catch or lure them using food. Yet, with fish its only ethical is we catch them with food or food mimics. Somehow a hook hidden in a hamburger is prefered to a hook out of the clear blue sky, even in this case were C&R isn't an option. Food for thought ;)

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I'm against snagging any fish because this has nothing to do with fishing. If you cant catch them leave them alone. ;)

Asian carp have no business in American waters. They escaped from fish farms into central U.S. waterways during flooding and threaten to drive out native species. There is a huge battle going on right now to keep them out of the Great Lakes. Snag as many as you can. Don't throw any back. This is a serious problem that has been highlighted on several national news reports.

Watch this story from CNN to learn more

http://moldychum.typepad.com/moldy_chum/2007/06/cnn-reporter-le.html

Dude...If your going to keep a fish at least eat it dont just kill it for the sake of killing it. Also I dont get why people HATE carp so much. They grow to huge sizes and put up a huge fight. Its like haveing a torpedo on the end of your line. They are not a trash fish at all. Infact they are a GREAT game fish. Also they are not that bad for the native species such as bass, catfish, panfish,crappie, trout that we like to catch. They are a vegetarian fish. The lakes I fish have both bass and carp in them and the carp population is not out of control and the bass population is very stable. Also in most parts of the united states large mouth bass are not a native species if I am not mistaken and they do not damage the population of other fish in the lakes. They have now become the most targed and favorite fish of most united states fishermen.

Asian carp are NOT like common carp (which are not vegetarian) or grass carp which do not reproduce. PLEASE watch the story, and you will see what I mean. These fish are a menace. They are filter feeders, so the only way to catch them is snagging, netting, or with a baseball mitt. Again, watch the story...it's quite entertaining.

Ok maybe I was wrong because I was thinking about common carp or koi carp which im guessing are a different species to these asian carp. Yes common carp and koi carp are vegetarian because I see them rumageing around weeds at the bottom of the lake kicking up lots of dirt looking for things to eat. They are a scavenger fish. I will also watch the video when I get home today( I am in my schools library right now and do not have sound on this computer). Thing is I am a person who believes that if your going to kill a fish at least eat it or give it to someone who wants to eat it dont just kill it and leave it on the side of the lake.

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Asian carp describes a couple of invasive species, in IL its primarily Silver Carp (the ones that jump) and Bighead Carp. Both are easily distinguished from the common carp and grass carp.

I just read on the IN dept of nat res webpage, if you catch a silver carp you are required to kill it immediately. I guess they don't care for them either.

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Asian carp describes a couple of invasive species, in IL its primarily Silver Carp (the ones that jump) and Bighead Carp. Both are easily distinguished from the common carp and grass carp.

I just read on the IN dept of nat res webpage, if you catch a silver carp you are required to kill it immediately. I guess they don't care for them either.

Ok that is deffinitly a different species of carp to the common or koi carp. I guess you should kill them then but you should still eat it or give it to someone who would eat it or something.

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They have become enough of a problem in Missouri that it is illegal to put a live asian carp in the water no matter how you got it and no matter what size it is. I caught one in a throw net out of the Lake of the Ozarks last year about 3" long. I used it for live bait, but as of this year, you can't even use them as live bait, but must kill them first (and they work really well for flathead cats if they are live).

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They have become enough of a problem in Missouri that it is illegal to put a live asian carp in the water no matter how you got it and no matter what size it is. I caught one in a throw net out of the Lake of the Ozarks last year about 3" long. I used it for live bait, but as of this year, you can't even use them as live bait, but must kill them first (and they work really well for flathead cats if they are live).

Chum is an option if you are going for cats  ;)

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I can provide enough chum to last a lifetime. Last time when went, we caught 12-15 20 lbers in a couple of hours, plus numerous smaller ones. That's over 300 lbs of fish. That doesn't event put a dent in their population. Here's a 30 lb Bighead Carp.

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Something for those of you that don't like the idea of wasting the fish:

You might think about using a pressure cooker and cook the fish until the bones are soft. If you don't care to eat the fish, it still makes good dog and cat food.

Also, fish makes a good fertilizer.

I totally agree that these fish need to come out of the water. If I can find a good use for it, even better.

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These things are getting so bad in the IL river that there is a "Redneck Fishing Derby" where people drive their boats around with nets hanging out, etc. and wait for these fish to jump.  They are an absolute menace and will destroy waters faster than a common carp, which is also a nuisance fish...just ask any biologist.  Kill every one you see is what I was told.  

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As someone said, Asian Carp aren't common carp.  In fact, they aren't carp at all.  They are giant minnows.  Kill as many as you can.  

I think a smart person could make a business out of turning them into fertilizer.

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SkyChimp, all carp are minnows

Well, silver carp are minnowerier minnows than common carp are minnows.   :)

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I can provide enough chum to last a lifetime. Last time when went, we caught 12-15 20 lbers in a couple of hours, plus numerous smaller ones. That's over 300 lbs of fish. That doesn't event put a dent in their population. Here's a 30 lb Bighead Carp.

arethose bullet holes in the side of that fish :o

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