How about' Roadwarriors altenative to the trig ;D

Darn it man, too many words!  ;D

T-rig has a weight.  What you wanna call the weightless version?  LOL.

Yo JF I think I have it

a T-RIGLESS

Yo JF I think I have it

a T-RIGLESS

DING...DING...DING...DING

Very clever!

8-)

I like it too.  T-Rigless!!!!

In my book, its not a Texas rig without a weight.

I'll havta agree with ya their!! ;D

I would like to hear your experience with both the weighted and unweighted snapper, how did you reach this conclusion?

Texas rigged worm: a worm with a bullet weight

Worm rigged texas style: worm rigged wight less.

I like it too. T-Rigless!!!!

Sure sound good! T-rigless

Weighted I have 2 favs, a worm and a brush hog. Pegged in cover and loose anywhere else. If rigged weightless counts then its a senco, a french fry, and a trick worm, in that order.

Yum Wooly Hawgtail T-rigless ( )

Zoom U-tail Worm t-rigged (free sliding weight)

Baby Brush Hog t-rigged (free sliding in less cover, pegged in more cover)

Sweet Beaver t-rigged (Pegged)

Weighted: *** Ripper worm. They're a little bulkier than the Power Worms, and last a long time. (As little weight as possible) 3/0 Gamakatsu EWG hook.

Weightless: *** Trick Sticks.

Falcon

Actually some of us Ole Guys were around when it was invented and Nick Creme started adding a slip sinker with his worms and instructions on how to fish this weedless bait. The 1964 catalog was the first to mention the Texas Rig by Crème; prior to that a crimp on split sinker was used for added weight.

So no a weight is not needed for it to be considered a Texas Rig

Zoom 8" lizards in either watermelon or junebug

GYCB KutTail worms

Culprit 10 and 12" worms in red shad

Most of the time with 1/8, 3/16, or 1/4 oz weights with a 4/0 ewg gammie

rage tail toad with a 4/0 hook

Actually some of us Ole Guys were around when it was invented and Nick Creme started adding a slip sinker with his worms and instructions on how to fish this weedless bait. The 1964 catalog was the first to mention the Texas Rig by Crème; prior to that a crimp on split sinker was used for added weight.

So no a weight is not needed for it to be considered a Texas Rig  

That may be true, but in most current publications, the Texas Rig has a slip weight, z-bend hook and the bait is rigged weedless.  Most readers would associate the crimp on weight version as a split shot rig.  A weedless plastic toad may be a t-rig by your definition, but none of the advice on how to fish what is commonly accepted as a Texas Rig would not apply to this, or any other weightless/weedless rig.  Its hard enough to explain techniques with the written word without semantics getting in the way, LOL.  

And yet so much of the finer things in fishing are all about semantics.  

In fact, the definition from this site's Glossary fits the description: http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/bass_fishing.html#def117.  Its easier if we are all talking about the same thing.  Don't you agree?

Hey JF, CATT is 100% correct about the history of the t-rig( Texas Rig)

It seems that Creme, the first plastic worm on the market(1949) was originally opened in Akron Ohio, then moved their operation to Tyler Texas, since Southern Bass Fishermen, particularly in Texas were using thier worms in the new Impoundments.

Creme was the first to mention a style of weedless hooking for these plastic worms in the early 60's. THATS 40 Years ago. The first documentation of these were straight /long shanked hooks, with the barbs reversed and buried int othe body of the worms and THEY HAD NO  BULLET WEIGHTS. other than a small old style bb crimped split shot

The Bullet weights ( pegged and loose) and EWG hooks would come much later. The original texas rigs, were not a with bullet weights presentatation.

Catt nailed this one, thats because he is older than Misssissippi Mud ;D

Interesting question; What came first the Carolina or the Texas Rig?

The original Texas Rig offered my Crème was in fact fished on the surface over vegetation much like a frog; the addition of crimp on or slip sinkers gave it the ability to be fished sub-surface.  

The Carolina Rig has been in use for salt water fishing long before it ever gained the name Carolina Rig; it has been called a Catfish Rig, Croaker Rig, Snapper Rig to name a few. As for bass fishing I think you will find mention of the Carolina Rig was also by Nick Crème.

That's good stuff, Muddy and Catt.  Thanks.  I do like to hear about the evolution of certain rigging, and how each feature came to be through creative problem solving.  I never thought the Carolina rig was all that different than what we called a Universal Rig.  Mainline with a bell sinker, barrel swivel, leader, and hook. That rig has worked for everything from little redworms for panfish on up to cut bait and chicken liver for channel cats.  Just replace the barrel with a bullet weight, add some clacky stuff for noise, and use a worm hook.  What is very interesting it that weight not only serves to get the bait down, but it adds noise and a bottom stirring, agitation factor as well.

Anyway, I'm not trying to contradict you guys here - I've only been fishing for bass for about 20 years, and you guys have obviously been doing it longer and know (or were part of) all the innovation that has led us to where we are now.  I just want to be able to say, "I used a Texas rig," and have everyone know what I meant.

Again, Thanks for lesson!  

Hey JF I am no where near the fisherman Catt is, if anything he is one of my most reliable teachers. A lot of times when he puts something up, it is worth researching, thats all I did

Guys it's not that I'm so smart, it's just I've been in love with it since 1958