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Is flipping/pitching restricted to BC only?

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I pitch with nothing but Spinning gear.

Roger

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I'll give you my opinion on it...

the presentation of a flip is the same but a pitch is a little easier to control on a baitcast, IMO. There are several people here that do in fact F & P with spinning gear.

It is my opinion that that the biggest reason is the rods themselves... a spinning rod is softer in the mid section (don't confuse this with a moderate taper) and as such it feels underpowered (to most people) for that particular task. To put it another way a spinning rod (with same power as a BC) has a less powerful (stiff) mid section than typical casting rods of same power. And since F & P is usually a close range, heavy cover technique, most prefer a heavy rod with good power through out the blank for quickly moving a fish out of the cover.

The 3rd reason (for me anyway) is that I have much lighter line spooled on my spinning rods... way too light for F & P work.

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I have been flipping and pitching with spinning gear for stream trout since I was a wee lad. Lots of fun

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flechero makes a couple of great points; if I'm f/p into heavy cover, baitcasting is going to be my first choice, but pitching a grub or finesse worm on spinning gear works for me. It really comes in handy when you find yourself a lttle too close due to wind, current, or lack of attention.

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Like Flechero, I will share my opinion and that's all it is. Theoretically (sp) flipping could be done with a spinning rig if you 'flip' the bait with the bail closed, that is, draw the length of cast line out and close the bail, then flip. This seems very awkward to me, but I am a baitcaster, mostly. Pitching with a spinning rig makes a little more sense, except that controlling the line delivery seems like it would be more difficult, at least to me. It's not so much that you can't flip & pitch with spinning gear, it's that bait casting gear makes it much easier. If you are a hard core spin fisherman and would like to experiment with bait casting. Get yourself a 5' 6" med. heavy rod and a low profile bait casting reel and learn to pitch jigs and worms. Practicing short, controlled casts will reduce the backlash frustration of trying to throw light baits a 1/2 a mile like you do with a spinner. Try it, you will open up a whole new world of fishing. IMHO.

Ronnie

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Most of the time i will try to skip a bait or side cast it rather than pitch or flip with spinning gear. Also i tried skipping with baitcasting gear and most the time end up with a proffesional overcast, but i think i'm excellent at flipping and pitching.

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Before I got into baitcasting, I used to flip and pitch mostly senkos, with my spinning setups.  Now I do as K_Mac stated.  I use my baitcaster for f/p heavier lures, jigs and spinnerbaits mostly, while using my spinning rig for lighter baits.

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I use spinning gear to flip tubes when I am wading in the river for smallies, and like Fourbizzle, have been using the technique for trout my entire life.

Now that I am able to use a BC, I will use that type because I can get a more silent entry with it.

Use what you are good at, keep at it and it will only get better for you...

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its very hard for me to get a really silent entry with spinning gear when pitching.  i do it, but i dont plan on it or anything.  its not like i set out with the plan of pitching a senko on spinning gear.  sometimes i stumble onto something though and do and it works fine, but for me has the same issues that any up close spinning tackle has, that i cant control the entry that well and it is often a loud entry.

surely it can be done, but i think that this is one technique that is better suited to b/c.

matt

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I can pitch 1/8 oz or smaller lures better with spinning, but only for outside weed edges, isolated cover (lie down) and near steep banks where the boat is around 15' to the target. You can't beat it for 4" wacky rigged sticks.

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I use both.  Its more a question of "What am I F/P to?"  If its heavy cover I'll use a BC, mainly because I have heavy line , 50lb spider wire, and a rod with enough back bone to pull a fish out of the cover. With a BC I'll F/P Jig & Pigs, mag. Tubes, Brush Hogs, and Sweet Beavers. However; if I am fishing the outside edge of the cover I will use SG, were lighter line can be used. I use 8 or 10 lb P-line on My SG. I'll be F/P lures like small tubes, worms, senkos and mini skirts.

One of my favorate things to do is. If I am fishing a tournament and everybody is beating the heavy cover, and the boats seem to be just fallowing each other up the shore hitting the same cover. I'll pitch a mini skirt with a 1/16oz bullshot weight to the outside edges of the cover. I have done very well doing that.

Jim

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