Copyright Law

A copyright refers to the owner of a particular expression of an idea, but not the underlying idea or method of operation.

The Poss family has the ability to copyright their own "version" of the umbrella rig, which they have done. It appears that the issue and "rude" comments stem from individuals who are in fact breaking copyright laws by selling their own versions of the rig and referring to their own products as "The Alabama Rig". <--This is the illegal aspect of the situation.

False. Sorry, that just isn't true. The ONLY thing they can copyright would be a written or pictorial description of the rig. Not the idea, the rig, the name, or the process. Period.

Everything you need to know about US copyright law is here: http://www.copyright.gov/

How do I protect my idea?

Copyright does not protect ideas, concepts, systems, or methods of doing something. You may express your ideas in writing or drawings and claim copyright in your description, but be aware that copyright will not protect the idea itself as revealed in your written or artistic work.

So if im from Alabama and driving a truck for a living My truck cant be called an Alabama rig because some A-hole thinks its proper to let a state name be copyrighted. What the **** has this country come to. Im going to copywright the word american and charge everyone wo calls themselves any sort of _____ american a fee, What a load of crap.

Careful A-hole might be the next thing they try to patent/copy write/trademark. It is something that they also seem to have an overabundance of. Sounds a lot like A-Rig

False. Sorry, that just isn't true. The ONLY thing they can copyright would be a written or pictorial description of the rig. Not the idea, the rig, the name, or the process. Period.

Everything you need to know about US copyright law is here: http://www.copyright.gov/

I think our views were different now that re-read your post. I'll just go ahead and agree to disagree. There has been trademark infringement since others are selling the rigs under their name, but I'm not a lawyer and will avoid the copyright questions because I may be incorrect.

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I think our views were different now that re-read your post. I'll just go ahead and agree to disagree. There has been trademark infringement since others are selling the rigs under their name, but I'm not a lawyer and will avoid the copyright questions because I may be incorrect.

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They weren't going after the people on Youtube for selling rigs with the same name (Or if someone was, forgive me, I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere), they were telling them using "A-Rig" and other such names to describe there videos was illegal when most were just showing others how to make them themselves.

I think our views were different now that re-read your post. I'll just go ahead and agree to disagree. There has been trademark infringement since others are selling the rigs under their name, but I'm not a lawyer and will avoid the copyright questions because I may be incorrect.

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Nothing to "agree to disagree" about. There is no copyright violation. Trademark violation? Maybe. My comments were directed specifically at your comment that the rig or idea can be copyrighted. It cannot.

To those producing knockoffs or similar, I suggest using the term Bamabrella, or Bama Brella, or Ala bamarig. As in ala carte.

They weren't going after the people on Youtube for selling rigs with the same name (Or if someone was, forgive me, I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere), they were telling them using "A-Rig" and other such names to describe there videos was illegal when most were just showing others how to make them themselves.

I have seen those comments too, but I was referring to some online auctions that did in fact have the trademarked name in the title. If you look at Ebay now, there are "creative" ways around selling a product with a trademark.

As far as those comments are concerned, it's a grey area. For kids on YouTube who might not understand, a successful infringement plaintiff is usually awarded attorney fees, brand dilution damage and other monetary damages. YouTube would remove these videos long before this ever went to "case" though.

Nothing to "agree to disagree" about. There is no copyright violation. Trademark violation? Maybe. My comments were directed specifically at your comment that the rig or idea can be copyrighted. It cannot.

I agree with your "copyright" explanation JFrancho, I merely got copyright and patent mixed up and went off on the wrong direction. You can rest your case

this whole alambama rig thing is a joke.Its been around forever,known as the umbrella rig.Now someone wants to take credit for renaming something to make it sound new ? please, spare me.We were using these 40 yrs ago in salt water.

I merely got copyright and patent mixed up and went off on the wrong direction.

I kind of figured that, Daniel, hence my clarification and link - no prob. I did a patent search as well, and though there is no patent application listed anywhere that I looked, I noticed they list the device as "Patent Pending." I'm a little fuzzy on patent laws as well. Owning a Trademark doesn't afford you all the rights they are claiming either. For instance, I can say Big Mac all I want, and I can give you a Big Mac recipe right here on this forum. I can't sell you that recipe, and I can't use the name for personal gain.

Personally, they should be embracing all the free press they get rather than attack people for using the name. Now, I won't buy their version of it, and I sure won't type their name ever again. I refer to it as a multi rig, or castable umbrella rig.

I say we take all of these stupid things and ship them back to GREENBOW ALABAMA!!!!!!

Or ship yours to me. They kill up here, LOL.

Guess I need to go after them. I made up a rig like this back around 1987. Fished a few local tournaments using it, caught fish and won 2 with it. But it was a hassle to fish, so as with a few other ideals I had. Never did anything with it, But guess i can tell them being I has it first they need to pay me so much for each they sold LOL HAHAH HEHEE

Guess I need to go after them. I made up a rig like this back around 1987. Fished a few local tournaments using it, caught fish and won 2 with it. But it was a hassle to fish, so as with a few other ideals I had. Never did anything with it, But guess i can tell them being I has it first they need to pay me so much for each they sold LOL HAHAH HEHEE

Do you have any pics of it? I would be interested in seeing it..

Do you have any pics of it? I would be interested in seeing it..

I have an old buzzbaits my father made when he was fishing professionally. It looks a lot like the buzzbaits with the two arms coming out of the head with spinnerbait blades on them (no idea who makes them now). He attached hooks and put slugos on them though. He'd also take a 3 way swivel and tie two leaders off the back and place the other hole over the hook of a buzz or spinnerbait. The idea has been around for a long time. Even some native tribes would troll trot lines behind canoes to simulate multiple prey fish.

Just the name, no big deal.

Bamabrella is a great name.

Are whole world is made from copy'n every little thing we have.Car's,Truck's,Boat's,you name it.The luxury is from those whom maid it Far Better than the Next Person.Tammy,need's to check herself for she could be introuble for making Threat's,to people whom are doin what this Nation has been doin for Year's.

This annoys me so much, pretty much EVERYONE calls stick baits senkos but you don't see Gary Yamamoto threatening everyone because of it!

It wasn't all that many years ago that all snow machines were called "Skidoos" I have a 1968 and a 1978 Herters catalog that have " umbrella rigs listed ( baits not included ) When the " chatterbait" came out a few years ago, a bunch of companys came out with a copy before the next season. A " baconrind" that Davy Hite used to win the classic was a copy of Zooms brush hog. How many companys now make a " tube " "Bandit" had square bill in the early 90's. Every company that makes plastics has a copy of the " senko " Sorry Ms.Poss, you loose my money and respect. I hope I am the first to copywrite the "Mississippi rig" It's Zoom plumworm on an "Owner hook, witha BPS red glass bead, a Cabella's sinker,fished on P-line , Shimano curado reel and St. Croix rod. Can I use the word "rig " So sue me.

False. Sorry, that just isn't true. The ONLY thing they can copyright would be a written or pictorial description of the rig. Not the idea, the rig, the name, or the process. Period.

Everything you need to know about US copyright law is here: http://www.copyright.gov/

Copyright Law

A copyright refers to the owner of a particular expression of an idea, but not the underlying idea or method of operation. <--Direct from my business law textbook by Beatty/Samuelson.

IMHO, you both are agreeing. The way the copyright statement is read in the text book, the: "particular expression of an idea" is a material representation. Using given examples, a drawing is a representation of said idea.

Yes, but Daniel misinterpreted that meaning to include using the phrase, "to copyright their own version of the rig" which is irrelevant to U.S. Copyright law. This is something we already agreed to in subsequent posts; not sure why your beating a dead horse so late in the game?

He's just adding his 2cents J.

This has been known as the "Umbrella Rig" for years in the offshore fishing industry. If nothing else it strikes my fancy and gets me interested in the "@*$&ama Rig"

thats the hot new lure LMAO this is going to make me laufe for while. thats the first time i saw this.

they made i good stink about that video, wonder if they will have jimmy huston fishing it in a freshly stocked bass pond.

can i say jimmy huston or is that a registered trademark 2? LMAO this is funny