These things are sick sick sick! Permission granted for drooling. Click on "hatchery" and also click on "frogs for sale" and check out the colors. There is also a video sample section near the bottom.

http://www.floridakayakfishing.com/index.html

Here is one that I like that shows the bait underwater:

I have to say that is one cool looking frog.

Yeah, it's cool looking. Reminds me of the original Bill Plumber's "Bass Frog" -the old firm foam one with the kinked legs. I loved that lure. None of the re-designs were close.

I've always wondered about "frog" baits though. Supposedly, and I've read this through several sources, that bull frogs and leopard frogs (the one this lure is modeled after) contain toxins in their skin that repulse fish predators.

So, I've wondered what "frog" bites are all about. I have some ideas, but will spare you my long winded thoughts.

Suffice it to say, "frog" baits catch fish, but I'm not convinced it's for the reasons we might think. This probably spills into other areas -about just what lures of all types are actually "representing".

BTW: And not to be a party pooper, but that bass in the vid is not "way over 10lbs". Way under is more like it.

Yeah I seen that video too.Hilarious. Any idiot can tell just by the shear size of the mouth that it is not even a ballpark 10lber. ;D

Excitement of the moment I guess. I can understand that -for a quarter pound or so. But 3 or 4?

They look killer! I'll pick up a couple, but just in the Clone Series.

I've always wondered about "frog" baits though. Supposedly, and I've read this through several sources, that bull frogs and leopard frogs (the one this lure is modeled after) contain toxins in their skin that repulse fish predators.

So, I've wondered what "frog" bites are all about. I have some ideas, but will spare you my long winded thoughts.

Bass are predators,they rely on instincts.If something looks good enough and moves bass will attack and eat it.Instincts will get them in trouble rather it'd be poison or a hook.Otherwise i see no explanation of why a bass would attack it.

It's the same reason why Bill Dance's using that Dancing eel lure will induce bites.There's a time and place for every lure to work.

Am i close to right?

I've heard of people cutting a Zoom horny toad in half and using the back legs portion with a jig. I don't like using frogs,so i do it this way.

i don't know where people got the notion that bass don't eat frogs , i have caught many that i have seen frog legs barely sticking out of their throat/stomach .. so i know they eat them , not just attack them ....  

BTW , thats a sick looking frog , a little expensive , but looks very good . i LOVE throwing frogs and have got my biggest fish on them and just might have to get some , thanks for sharing them !!!

I've always wondered about "frog" baits though. Supposedly, and I've read this through several sources, that bull frogs and leopard frogs (the one this lure is modeled after) contain toxins in their skin that repulse fish predators.

I can tell you as fact that they eat them.  Our next door neighbors on Port Bay, had a pond with three big largemouth in it.  As kids, we would catch leopard frogs, and feed the bass.  They would actually follow us around the edge, waiting for us to chuck them in.  They did not spit them out.

Yeah I seen that video too.Hilarious. Any idiot can tell just by the shear size of the mouth that it is not even a ballpark 10lber. ;D

That whole website is sketchy... Check out these photoshop skills!

I've always wondered about "frog" baits though. Supposedly, and I've read this through several sources, that bull frogs and leopard frogs (the one this lure is modeled after) contain toxins in their skin that repulse fish predators.

So, I've wondered what "frog" bites are all about. I have some ideas, but will spare you my long winded thoughts.

Bass are predators,they rely on instincts.If something looks good enough and moves bass will attack and eat it.Instincts will get them in trouble rather it'd be poison or a hook.Otherwise i see no explanation of why a bass would attack it.

It's the same reason why Bill Dance's using that Dancing eel lure will induce bites.There's a time and place for every lure to work.

Am i close to right?

I've heard of people cutting a Zoom horny toad in half and using the back legs portion with a jig. I don't like using frogs,so i do it this way.

Dunno what's right really but here are my present thoughts...

Most of the slop fishing I've done is in bluegill waters. Some of the best slop fishing has been associated with bluegill activity. I've done well with all kinds of slop lures, not all of them topwater.

I did find that there were times that the bass would blow up on baits and miss 'em. Some days it was REALLY frustrating, and I never solved it. The best I could do was switch to a jig and hit pockets or punch.

But I think Micro recently offered a really good explanation. (If it's not Micro I apologize to whoever threw this out there). Those blow ups, I concur, are very likely both misses and bass attacking bluegills attracted and distracted by my lure. I think this is a really promising answer.

This doesn't answer whether bass eat frogs very often -or more than once lol ! But I really don't know. I've never seen frog parts in a bass as pagersumky has. I did find one in the stomach of a big brown trout once though. I've always thought it was odd that bullfrog tadpoles can be so common in bass ponds, lying all over the place. So, this one remains open in my mind. Maybe others will pipe in and say they've often seen bass eat frogs.

But, my point is that what's happening just below the surface may account for many of the "frog" hits we see, and in my waters it seems to be related more to bluegills than frogs.

Just my ever-evolving thoughts on the subject.

Oh...btw, I found the reference to frogs and bass in Keith Jones' Knowing Bass, where he says that some frogs including bull and leopard contain toxins that repulse predatory fish.

Yeah I seen that video too.Hilarious. Any idiot can tell just by the shear size of the mouth that it is not even a ballpark 10lber. ;D

That whole website is sketchy... Check out these photoshop skills!

OMG..Did that come from that site? That's really low.

Ya know, this isn't the thread for pet peeves, but I'm growing mighty sick of the photos of bass stuck out into a wide lens. Makes the catcher look small, in more ways than one.

At the tackle shop I worked at we joked about the photos of all the famous fishers holding big bass. We dubbed 'em, Al "Big Hands" Lindner, and Bill "Popeye" Dance, ... .

It's easy to distort fish in photos, even unintentionally. But seeing a 2lb bass like the photo above trying to represent something else is pure BS. I also see this in the mags, like IF, and granted there are many nice fish, ...but misrepresented. No one needs to be ashamed of a 4lb bass, and it doesn't need to look like a 7. And a 7 doesn't need to look like a 10. Unless one has size issues. I think the mags set a standard that is unfortunate.

OK...back to Frogs....

But I think Micro recently offered a really good explanation. (If it's not Micro I apologize to whoever threw this out there). Those blow ups, I concur, are very likely both misses and bass attacking bluegills attracted and distracted by my lure. I think this is a really promising answer.

I've seen this first hand as well at "lunchtime pond."  I think its important to note that while I have had HUGE success with frogs this year, I don't fish them the way most others do.  I don't dead stick the thing, with a twitch here and a twitch there, I use a super fast jerk bait retrieve.  The only reason I use a frog, is due to the cover.  Bass eat them for the same reason they eat a spook bait: something edible and catchable is nearby.

I've written before about my correlation between dragon/damsel fly activity and toad style baits as well.  I really think we're imitating a bug, not a frog.  But, I have seen fish eat frogs.  I've even seen frogs eat frogs, LOL.  Perhaps hunger overrides flavor?

Oh, and Paul, this one's for you

Not to go too off topic (crap, Paul and I are posting in the same thread  ), but unless the photo is showing the fish clearly with some reference and/or measuring device, it serves no purpose to prove anything about the size of the fish.  Therefore, I like to make a picture that captures the excitement and pride of the angler, in their moment of glory.  In this way, it more an environmental portrait, not a document of the catch.

Paul I have found that bass do not like bullfrog tad poles but will readily eat small bullfrogs. When I stocked a pond for a guy I had to put adult frogs in because the bass would eat any small ones. I could put tadpoles in and they would grow to small frogs and then get eaten. My guess is the tadpoles have some kind of toxins and that changes as they chang into frogs. This of course is a guess. I have kept bass in aqauriums where they would eat anything I threw in. If I put a tatpole in they would eat it instantly but they would always spit them up and then they wouldnt eat the tadpoles any more. If I put a baby bull frog in they would eat it and keep it down.

Also I have never seen a bass keep a toad down.

HMMM this has me thinking about scent. Bass must be able to smell because I have used small real frogs for bait with success but I have never goten bit on a real toad. Even at night. so I must coclude that the bass could smell the stink of a toad.

as for that bait, that guy can paint. those are beautiful frogs. I dont like the rigging with the big hook showing in front of the bait. I would like a more stealthy rigging but the looks and action of that frog are impresive. They aint cheap either.

The video was cool, I think he was just excited or maybe he knew it was smaller and he was being a salesman.

I agree about the tadpole Matt. Swarms of small black tadpoles are perfect fare for bluegills and panfish but I have never seen them eat them either.

John...what can I say... A LOT! ;D

In my neck of the woods, the bass are on the 'gills that are on the damsels. What bass look for is a distracted bluegill. Fully aware 'gills are hard to catch and bass are not fools when it comes to identifying prey. the fools already starved to death. People so often talk about "wounded" prey, but that's not most of what bass identify as vulnerable prey day in and day out.

As to that photo...that one isn't trying to BS anyone. And I don't mind some of those big hands shots... anyway...'nuff said here.

Russ, that's really plausible. I don't know the details either but what you've seen, esp in your aquarium is darned interesting. As to scent, I dunno, plausible too. I'm not ready to go there. It might give me one of Muddy's headaches. You've got my attention on this topic though, from this and that previous thread.

Hey, good stuff all.

Looks like some kind of chinese dragon with pinball flippers

Those things have been around for a while! I remember always seeing the videos on YouTube. I wouldn't buy one because of the hook placement!

Looks like a frog version of the banjo minnow to me

Just looked at the website...wow. Anybody who photoshops just about every image on their website aren't the kind of people you want to be dealing with imo. I bet they have great customer support, lawl.

It said somewhere, in all of that web site, that he invented the Banjo Minnow. The frog looks really interesting though...said a guy who's been called a sucker more than once.

It said somewhere, in all of that web site, that he invented the Banjo Minnow. The frog looks really interesting though...said a guy who's been called a sucker more than once.

LOL No shame there. Being a sucker seems to be part of the game. Are we really after more fish or more lures. Sometimes it's hard to tell.

Some years back, I had a house built on a 10-acre tract in Georgia, and paid the bulldozer-operator

to scoop out a small backyard pond. The maximum depth was only 3 feet so I could see nearly everything

that went on in that pond. I stocked it with bass I caught in local waters, and intentionally withheld food

so the residents did not depend on me, but fed on the natural smorgasbord offered by the pond.

Although supplementary food wasn't necessary, my wife and I would occasionally feed the bass

for our own selfish enjoyment, and the bass busted everything and anything we tossed into the pond.

To the angler the difference between a frog and a toad is the difference between hollow-plastic and solid-plastic.

To bass however, the difference is far more significant than that. Every species of frog we tossed into the pond

was seized and eaten, but toads were another story. Every toad we tossed into the pond was promptly engulfed,

but would invariably be regurgitated a short time later. Depending on the toad's condition, it would either

fight its way toward shore or just float unmolested. A couple years later I read that the encasing membrane of toads

contains a toxin, and I have every reason to embrace that statement.

Roger

Those things have been around for a while! I remember always seeing the videos on YouTube. I wouldn't buy one because of the hook placement!

You remind me a lot of Dink Whisperer... ;D  You Florida guys all love you frogs and exclamation marks.