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[barroncooper]

bro, the revo's can be a little finickey on casting, I think we can all agree on that. especially the sx. but to be honest, I don't think its a problem with the reel. I'm not saying that you're a novice or anything, its just that there is a small learning curve with the revo series. I've had to be patient with every revo I've ever owned except for the winch. It's most like a curado to me on the set up. revo's typically have a heavier spool and thus more rotational mass. the more rotational mass the more breaking effort required. The STX is a great reel and I'm a shimano fan boy. my suggestion is to get out and cast the reel til you get to know it. and on the topic of the guy not backlashing, I don't find that impossible. I can give my 3 year old my curado 50 and tighten the cast control a bit and he can cast it incredibly for a 3 year old.

[clayton86]

hell on the no back lashes my SX isn't finicky a bit I went from cheapo dicks and Walmart combos to my sx I tie a duo lock on it and change type/size/weight lures constantly and almost never back lash if I do make an adjustment its very minimal and usually to loosen it so I can flip/pitch a bait but iv been know to have it all the way loose flip a jig to cover bring it out and then bomb the same jig way out parallel to the bank never making a single adjustment just learning to feel and "hear" the reel iv kinda trained my self to listen for that sound of it over running and my thumbs right there feathering it down. I don't have a STX not yet anyways but I do have SX's and there supposedly the worst to cast. Im not saying its you or the reel but somethings off maybe it could be the reel maybe its just you already have your mind set you wont like it so no mater what ur subliminally using bad form or something to make the reel act up or just not putting effort into adjusting it correctly. I know im guilty of it if im forced to go back to a crappy reel i started with I don't take the time to adjust it or make sure its still adjusted and i get sloppy or angry with my casts and just compounds the problem cuz my minds already set that the reel is a POS. But if you really don't like it and want to get rid of it i'll take it off your hands.

[Hooligan]

Just a heads up, AG has acknowledged that there is an issue with the Revos, and spool tension. They haven't said exactly what it is related to at this point. There should also be a very large markdown coming, landing the STX at $159 and the Premier at $199. From the measurements I've taken, the issue is more about spool shaft length and a single shim placement. The spool shafts are of variable length on the STX alone, I've measured 12 that were greatly different.
What it boils down to, is that it isn't user error or brakes. There's a definite problem.

[jeb2]

But there is nothing to indicate the current discounts on the Revo's has ANYTHING to do with any spool tension issues. The only reel I believe they acknowledged that issue on was some of the 09 SX line. And they gave me a free 10 model SX in exchange for my 09 SX that had that issue.

Rumor has it the current discounts are more about some possible new models coming out at iCast this year, and PF/AG just flushing out the supplies of older stuff before that happens.

[SoCalFisher]

I have actually been fishing with the reel and I got it set up correctly but my curados are still much better. They cast so much smoother . I just know now to stick to shimano reels.

[Hooligan]

But there is nothing to indicate the current discounts on the Revo's has ANYTHING to do with any spool tension issues. The only reel I believe they acknowledged that issue on was some of the 09 SX line. And they gave me a free 10 model SX in exchange for my 09 SX that had that issue.

Rumor has it the current discounts are more about some possible new models coming out at iCast this year, and PF/AG just flushing out the supplies of older stuff before that happens.

The information that we've been given has a little of both, actually. They don't want to correct the issue because of the cost in design and tooling; better to just flush the problem reels out of the system and revamp the line. Also, they've acknowledged the issue in current production, not just in the old series.

[jeb2]

I have actually been fishing with the reel and I got it set up correctly but my curados are still much better. They cast so much smoother . I just know now to stick to shimano reels.

I understand. But I still think something is wrong with your reel. I have Curados, Cores, Calais DC and higher end Calcutta reels. The only ones that approach my Premier's for smoothness are the Calcutta's. Casting is won by my 2 DC reels, but the Premier's are right with or better than the rest of them. And since the STX is just a little heavier version of the Premier, I'd think they should be about the same in those regards.

But it sounds like you got a bad reel. That's unfortunate, especially since it's your first experience with the brand, it seems.

[jeb2]

The information that we've been given has a little of both, actually. They don't want to correct the issue because of the cost in design and tooling; better to just flush the problem reels out of the system and revamp the line. Also, they've acknowledged the issue in current production, not just in the old series.

Interesting. I've heard of none of those issue on the forums. Where is this information available?

[SoCalFisher]

I understand. But I still think something is wrong with your reel. I have Curados, Cores, Calais DC and higher end Calcutta reels. The only ones that approach my Premier's for smoothness are the Calcutta's. Casting is won by my 2 DC reels, but the Premier's are right with or better than the rest of them. And since the STX is just a little heavier version of the Premier, I'd think they should be about the same in those regards.

But it sounds like you got a bad reel. That's unfortunate, especially since it's your first experience with the brand, it seems.

Yea its my first Abu Garcia except for a cheap spinning reel I have that is actually quite good.

[POPRG]

Interesting. I've heard of none of those issue on the forums. Where is this information available?

i'd like to see this info too??

[bigbasshunter]

What size line are you using? I have four revo stx and two curados. Curados seem to handle lighter line better. I keep 10# on curados and 12# on stx.

Which brand is better?? Hook them up to each other and start a tug of war. My stx will pull a curado off its reel seat

[Quillback]

Premiers selling for $199 is a sweet deal. I'm going to watch the auction sites also, might find some even better deals.

[aavery2]

Just a heads up, AG has acknowledged that there is an issue with the Revos, and spool tension. They haven't said exactly what it is related to at this point. There should also be a very large markdown coming, landing the STX at $159 and the Premier at $199. From the measurements I've taken, the issue is more about spool shaft length and a single shim placement. The spool shafts are of variable length on the STX alone, I've measured 12 that were greatly different.
What it boils down to, is that it isn't user error or brakes. There's a definite problem.

Hooligan, which shaft is it that you are finding your variance on? With Abu using a split spool shaft on most everything above the S model, it seems like it would be an easy fix unless the variance is on the spool itself.

[DAL]

Sonds like a bad reel for sure...

Funny thing, I just had a bad Chronarch 200E...the retrieve had a stragne vibration (not smooth at all). I traded it in for another Revo STX...which is much smoother and more sold than the chronarch.

The Revo requires a little more experienced thumb than shimanos (which i have used many of over the years), but if you have that experienced thumb the Revo will out cast the chronarch.