J Francho

Uh.....we already know why he asked....and that was answered. Conversations turn, and new thoughts arise. No harm in that, man.

OK, I am confident I will catch fish tomorrow because I know a Senko is 5/16 oz.? I'm not sure I even understand that. Confidence is a word that gets thrown around too much, though it truly is key. Confidence is built through success, not trivial knowledge. Confidence doesn't come from a triple beam scale. It's from time on the water and fish in the livewell. Confidence without ability or experience is just ego. I can see why chromedog wants to know what they weigh, so he can line them up with weight ranges on rods, and just likes to know. That's fine.....I wanted to know once as well. I'm telling you, knowing won't catch fish. I ain't against it, bro. It's just one of those things, like line diameter, that really only applies in relative terms. Anyway, if someone got an idea, or learned something from this, then +1 to chromedog. And Rolo, intelligent debate is not bickering. To me, this is good thread.

Tonight I watched three females vie for attention from one male. Caught the male....could not catch the ladies.

See two posts above.

Save yourself the spare time, LOL: Senko 5" 0.385 Senko 6" 0.56 Senko 7" 0.875 Senkos are the 9 series. Big Bite 5"Trick Stick 0.33 Strike King Ocho 0.355 Yum Dinger 4" 0.235 Yum Dinger 5" 0.295 Case Magic Stick 4" 0.215 Case Magic Stick 5" 0.27 Ticki Bamboo Stick 5" 0.51 Bass Pro Sticko 6" 0.385 Yum Dinger 6" 0.475 Berkley Fat Sink Worm 5" 0.39 Berkley Fat Sink Worm 7" 0.81

I already told you that different color senkos don't all weigh exactly 5/16 oz. What do you do with that? I figure this stuff out on the water, not in the lab. I don't pour my own - no need to. What I'm telling you is that I weighed some stuff, and it never made any difference in my on the water fishing. It over complicates things. Thinking in relative terms - this bait is smaller, falls faster, has more salt, etc. - has served me better. The Original Post was about bait ratings on rods. I say tie it on, and try it out. If it works, have at it. If not, try a different rod.

Tell me one time that knowing a 1/2 oz. jig was really 0.45 oz., or that a 5" senko weighs 5/16 oz. (real examples) was the difference in putting fish in the boat. Its MY OPINION that it doesn't matter, and I told you the reason I thought is wasn't important. All I've heard is that it "would help" or is "interesting to know." BTW, some colors of senkos weigh differently than other colors. Boggles the mind. I'm a details guy, don't get me wrong, but this level of minutia isn't all that imporant.

That sums it up perfectly.

Parents do. This is their territory. Reading, math, science, etc. is the school's. Hermaphroditic clownfish has what to do human sexuality or gender? I just don't get the comparison, or how either brings up the opportunity to discuss the other. Makes zero sense. What boggles my mind is the amount of basic teaching I've been burdened with by my sons' teachers. Here's an example of the time wasted in the classroom. LOL, normally I don't care about this stuff either, and I'm pretty liberal. This is just stupid.

All he's doing is loading the rod, key to any cast, whatever you want to call it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I always thought the big problem was NOT ENOUGH warning time.

Yep. Earlier last week, it looked like the females dropped eggs, and left. After the rains, so did the males. Now they're all back, and locked on, some still in pairs. I haven't seen a spawn like this in 15 years, and then it was the same - too much rain after years of drought.

One of the biggest fish in a pond I frequent (larger than 6-1, since I caught the 6-1, LOL) has snubbed me the past three spawns. Always hooks up with the same scrub 13" male. Never bites, even a crawler (I'm not ashamed, LOL). There are a couple of beds I see every year, similar to what you describe - two big "girls" on a bed, together. I'm talking 4+ lbs. I think one must just be a big healthy male. Neither look particularly old, and are well proportioned.

Knowledge is key? Knowing what to do with useful knowledge is key. But what is useful? Knowing the exact weights of a 3" and 5" Senko will not put more fish in the boat. Knowing that a 5" senko falls faster than a 3" senko might put more fish in the boat. Knowing that a Trick Worm sinks very slowly, even a big one, compared to a senko might put more fish in the boat, even though a 6" Trick Worm weighs less than 5" senko. Knowing a specification doesn't make you any smarter. Knowing how that spec affects the bait is another story. Wisdom > knowledge.

Here's a nice shot of the HB in action. 383c Combo:

I have two Garmins, a Humminbird, and an Eagle unit. With the exception of one of the Garmins, all are GPS/Sonar combo units, and all are color. The Garmins are junk. I've been using Humminbirds for over 20 years, so I'm most comfortable with them, though they require fine tuning sometimes. The Eagle (Lowrance) works great right out of the box, but is a bit more complex if you are going to change the settings.

Irene's been expanding her horizons with dance classes..... As for this thread, well it's California. And you guys thought we Yankees were nutz.

1. April Vokey 2. April Vokey 3. Who cares, LOL. :lol:

I grew up fishing, and my grandfather certainly taught me a ton about bass, but we didn't do a ton of bass fishing. My dad was more of a pike and trout guy, but I learned from him that the more casts you make, the more time your lure was in the water - even if it's in the wrong spot - the better your chances were. Bass fishing, as in modern bass fishing is an evergreen process. I learn new things all the time. And I learn them from all sorts of places, a big one is here.

Pin hole, drain, rinse in alcohol, and hit it with New Skin: http://www.amazon.com/NEW-SKIN-LIQUID-BANDAGE-BOTTLE/dp/B0006GDBT0 New Skin stings like heck, but it'll work. I've been playing drums for 30+ years....got a ton of experience with callouses and blisters.

I wouldn't base my opinion of VMC strictly on what comes n a Rapala box....they aren't the same.

Looks like junk to me.

First off, the ledge and drop off are structure, the trees and brush piles are cover. Clear water, no boat traffic, solid weedline, private.....sounds like paradise. Throw whatever you like to throw. You'll figure out what works and what doesn't. One hint though, jigs work everywhere, every time.

Gammy trebles have the hook eye oriented wrong for 90% of baits. I needs to be perpendicular, since most cranks use a split ring. VMC Vanadium Inlines and Owner ST-36/41 are what I use.

Weight has less effect on fall rate than shape, density, and saltiness.