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Hey:Palomar I think a few PO'd reporters had the goods, were rebuffed by MLB and are now getting their ducks in a row and proving their point. There has been some real solid reporting by Lupica, Madden,Gammons, The Sporting News and ESPN ( I wish they wouldn't sream so much)

of the 103 who tested positive it is estimated some 73 are still involved in the game IT IS SYSTEMIC TO EVERY TEAM! :-/ It stinks in Texas too!

Several Former Rangers, you look them up, I am tired of doing it for you, have tested positive so let me get this straight A guy holds up 3 banks in New York and is caught 2 years later in New Jersey, so NJ has a bank robbery problem and not NY??

When he tested positive he was a Oriole, one of the most famous Rangers ever.He is the only player to hit 200 HR's for 2 consecutive teams, and if Canseco's time line is right( most of it is) he was juicing as a Ranger. check the article I linked, some have been proven since.

Hey Obvious, are you Oblivious: does the name Rafael Palmeiro mean anything to you, he is at the center of the storm! and take a look at this; 16 Rangers implicated, not convicted: http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/dec/13/15-former-texas-rangers-linked-steroids-hgh/ Baseball is trying to suppress this list, via the Union and the owners, why would they leak it? The last thing they want is to be in the news daily with negative publicity. The leaks have been coming from targets of the investigation and reporters!

Look again at his stats, year by year. and he was on those texas teams he was team mates with ken caminetti too wasn't he? 1987-1988 they were teamates then ryan wen tto texas and was teamates with canseco et all nolan ryan was the key all along and he's a hall of famer there's your guy if it's anyone canseco is refering to it's nolan ryan it's so obvious.... this is a guy who from age 33-39 didn't lead the league in K's once.... no cy youngs, no mvp's, and at the age of 39 had a 253-226 record... hardly cy young.... then from age 40-46 he led the league in k's 4 times... and got to 324 wins and the hall of fame I am feeling you John. Ryan has one thing going for him: HIS HEAD DID NOT GROW LARGER! HGH is the preferred PED of this era, used by pitchers A male Human head does not grow much after 21 to 25 yrs old, if at all, unless taking Human Growth Hormone to increase your muscular mass. Take a look at Bonds and Clemens before and after: There heads looked like they doubled in mass(not that both of them didn't have big heads before, a whole other story ) Ryan's head didn't The thing with Ryan is, he really was not a great pitcher,percentage wise nearly identical K's as Walks, nearly a 500 winning percentage He just threw so hard and for so many years it afforded him the time to set the No Hitter Total

Can anyone imagine being in the same boat, on the same body of water with Catt and Matt Fly, during the college football season? Question: who would wind up in the water first?

He was long.lean and muscular; like a real baseball player, i would really be surprised. 500 life time guy both in wins and loses and also in balls and strikes but those 7 No Nos put him in a class by himself!

Hey John: here is one former Pro I would say should be on the did not juice list: Lenn Haruki Sakata Life time Stats: 565 Games 296 Hits 25 Home Runs 109 RBIs .230 Batting Average ;D

I remember when pork chops were a nickel, and I din't have a nickel;BB KING You've thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear to bring children Into the world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain't worth the blood That runs in your veins.: Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul :Both verses from BOB DYLAN If I exorcise my devils my angels will leave too and when they do, they are so hard to find how can the angels get any sleep when the devil leaves the porch light on; Both from Tom Waits just spent 60 days in the jailhouse For the crime of having no dough Now here I am back out on the street For the crime of having nowhere to go Save your neck or save your brother Looks like it's one or the other Oh, you don't know the shape I'm in THE BAND One more; The whole freaking song Marvin Gaye, Motown Mother, mother There's too many of you crying Brother, brother, brother There's far too many of you dying You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today - Ya Father, father We don't need to escalate You see, war is not the answer For only love can conquer hate You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me, so you can see Oh, what's going on What's going on Ya, what's going on Ah, what's going on In the mean time Right on, baby Right on Right on Father, father, everybody thinks we're wrong Oh, but who are they to judge us Simply because our hair is long Oh, you know we've got to find a way To bring some understanding here today Oh Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me So you can see What's going on Ya, what's going on Tell me what's going on I'll tell you what's going on - Uh Right on baby Right on baby

Why would a sport want to keep a list of cheaters confidential??? Do you think the Kentucky Derby would keep it's popularity if there was widespread doping of the horses, they confirm it and then hide it from the public? The NFL is the only sport that has seemed to benefit from Steroids, some would say Wrestling but that's entertainment and not a sport ;D The Olympics and other gymnastic sanctioning bodies are maniacal about this, and the slightest positive tests have been made public and the athletes involved immediately stripped of all records and awards. Track and field events, not popular to begin with suffered from this and Olympic weight lifting got completely discredited when the women from BULGARIA kept showing up rocking goatees and no one said anything

NAH!! Way to expensive for what you get to see! Just get some of these , about 10 bucks at Wal Mart. If you see something on your depthfinder you want to investigate, slip them on and dunk your head over the side of the boat. VERY REFRESHING!!!!!!

It is not repairable, WHY? all the facts : Agents like Boras : the more their clients make the more they make. They need their clients to have the best Stats, since salaries are stat driven Steroids: it is not the right thing to do period. I do not care what the facts are. It is interesting to see all the Sox fans poo poo this, now that their 2 biggest sticks are involved The Commish and The Union Head: Owners benefit by increased Offense: this has been Selig's Mantra Players benefit by inflated stats, as salaries are tied to it; Feher,Selig and Boras on the same page here It all started when they lowered the mound after the 68 season and they have chipped away at the heart of the game ever since I do not need all the facts; there is no justification. A lot of honesty followed by players getting clean and submitting to testing to assure they are clean would go a long way to some level of trust I love the game of baseball; it is just a memory now,before they lowered the mound, artificial turf,DH,lively ball, rigged strike zones, banning Willie Mays,bad umpiring, the strike,turning a deaf ear to steroid use,and throwing pitchers out for THROWING INSIDE( not hitting anyone;just inside), the long ball orgy( and that stupid home run derby) and high salaries to mediocre position players and pitchers with Era's that are greater than Rosie O Donnell's weight! nah it is not the game of Baseball my father taught me to love. :-[

Thanks Mr. L, off to Wal mart I go to spool up for tomorrow

I think all the leaks have come from lawyers... : It doesn't matter who is leaking the results. MLB tested everyone and those tests were to be kept confidential (since steroids were not illegal then) That means only a handful of MLB 'brass' knows who did and who didn't. MLB should have stuck to their word ----> CONFIDENTIAL Absolutely NOT!!!!!! This is why I walked away from the game. The original idea of the testing was to prove it was not as widespread as thought and 103 tested positive and 73 are still playing and both Selig and Fehr refused to dish out the names, because they never thought that many would be involved. Until this all comes to light, and asterisks at the least or better yet are stripped AND those 2 bandits ( Fehr and Selig ) are gone SO AM I. I have not watched a single pitch this year, I miss my team but I had to draw the line somewhere.

Hey Fellas: The capacity of these reels is like double of what I was used to with low profile Pfluegers Can I put black electrical tape on the spool to lessen the amount of line I am putting on, or is it better to use about 100 yds of cheaper line as a backing? I do not want to put 180 to 200 yards of Trilene Xl on a reel if all I am ever going to need is 100 yards

Great point, I didn't know that since I've never been to the hall. What a double standard. IMO, if he's banned, all of his stuff should be absent of the hall, period. My problem is with the seemingly so called lifetime suspension, not necessarily the HOF. Right, wrong or indifferent, if he gets reinstated and becomes eligible for the HOF, then that's ok with me. I also agree with this... did pete rose know that his gambling could get him a lifetime suspension? (I'm honestly asking if this was a known rule at the time) If so, he made his choice, just like someone who knowingly commits a crime chooses to accept the risk of a prison term. HE KNEW IT KEITH; DO THE CRIME YOU GOTTA BE WILLING TO DO THE TIME Was looking around just now and came across http://www.answers.com/topic/pete-rose I guess since he singed off on it, he chose the deal. No reason for me to argue for or against his own wishes. Correct here also, You are the 3rd friend to make the observation in as many days, that just because others are in withsome " morality issues" doesnt make it any more right for him to get it.

There is no one on the site with as much knowledge about baitfish than Matt, Catt;s a close second.

Actually there is nothing in the by laws to address such a situation. He was never eligible for consideration, and his name never on a ballot. His lawyer alluded to this 3 years ago, when there was some communication between Rose and the Commissioner's office. It will be a point of law question when and if Pete does get reinstated. Dowd's investigation took place at a time when Rose was being pressured by organized crime to keep his mouth shut. Truth is I would have kept my mouth shut in such a situation Rose should be barred from any day to day operations of any team; that is a strong message and yes either you stopped betting or you don't. He came clean because a deal was made with his bookie, who had ties to organized crime. I think the bookie, protected the crew, by turning against Rose. It was a win , win situation as they both lived and the Government was given the checks ( total set up) and betting records ( which no one keeps). A lot of pro baseball players bet on single pitches, at bats and so on, it goes on all the time. This does not make it right, Roses problem was his betting Jones could have put him in the pocket of organized crime and old baseball is still wary of another Black Sox Scandal. Rose should be grateful Judge Landis was not involved with this, he would never have a chance at reinstatement I do not need to google other HOF members or other players because frankly I don't give a rats butt what they have to say. Truth is there are people in the HOF who did far worse than Rose, from being convicted of Domestic Violence to dealing in drugs. The HOF is a lesser place without Rose's presence Rose didn't apologize for bowling over Harrelson and every other thing he did, I wouldn't wait for an apology now.

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A 2.00 rapala is cheaper than an 8 dollar one, I think the point is fairly obvious here.

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The Maple Leaf; played there years ago and it had one of my favorite bit of men's room graffiti in it On the wall behind a urinal, written sideways: As you are reading this you are peeing on the guy standing next to you This was the period of my life that got very dark; I can never go in there again. I avoid people,places and things from that life now, for my own protection. I was losing my ability to play more than 2 sets from being loaded all the time. I hope no one remembers the few times I played there! I am grateful these days are past/ 8-)

Apparently he is HUGE in Australia. Permanent member of Bonnie Raitts abnd Has recorded and played with; Stevie Wonder Wolf Man Washington Allan Tousiant Dr.John Tom Jones ( one of his favorites) Eric Clapton the list is growing!

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