Muddy

CURL THIS!!!!!!!!!!! HOW YOU DOIN ?

None all of their sandwiches should be put through a grinder, they are horrible!

NEVER IN A THOUSAND YEAR!! The 2 teams I will never ever root for are U Con and the NY Yankees, i find them both somewhat repulsive. If I do switch it will either be Georgetown or Louisville

Yea Pual you really showed us up

Who you calling an Idiot? posted by MUDDy on location at Lake#2

If I buy bulk, I only bring a days supply or a trip supply at a time. I keep them in what ever plastic boxes came with my large green OCHECHOBEE FATS bag I only use jig heads with plastics stuck on them and I keep the plastics in 2 other said boxes I sort them by rows , type and weights Left row lightest to right by wt. Top row: Finesse /Slider type heads. next 2 rows: shakeys and angle/round heads and 2 types of pear heads last 2 rows; football jig heads I only use Dark black,brown or green and color is not that much a concern for me

I use 2 of the Balsa Models: the Original Shad Raps in black/silver and the older Crawdad color and the Super/Shallow Shad in black/silver Highly effective baits. I prefer the DT and Fat Raps ( old basa ones) for deeper fishing and the Shad Raps for more shallow water.

There is a fun division of fans here THE SHIMANO POSSE: whose sheriff is Road Warrior and their head buster is Burley The FLOOGER MOOKS, no leadership and always in a state of complete anarchy and disarray. Most of what is said is in gest, and for those not following the thread one said Burley has been on an everything but SHEMANO bashing march to the sea Easy does it fellas this is all in jest and has been going on for a few weeks

I have a load of old shoes and tin cans to tie on the back of the BASSBUS! Good news and God Bless 2 great members of BassResource.com!

Hey Cart what translator did you use? I think their is a dielect problem mine translated all She man O pproducts as OVER RATED

Hey Chris I am sure the above answer helped you understand how the hooks you asked about worked

Yes the AL East basement could use some light

Hey Russ: I think the observations lead to 3 questions 1. How does the intensity of fishing pressure with a specific lure effect catch rates? 2. How long is this "fear" retained 3. If the pressure with that specific lure goes away, how long will it take them to "forget"? I use the quotes because remembering and forgetting are human traits and I do not know if that accurately describes how or if fish think at all Dominick

Hey Check this out; Me and Ron were fishing the same dock. He threw the same Stick I was to the left corner and I threw to the right. He hooked up almost immediately and a faulty knot cost him the fish, within seconds I hook up and when I reel it in there is the same fish with Rons stick still stuck in it's lip! He was all of 13 inches

Hey Jay; Maybe they were feeding on CHEESY POOFS! Seriously: I tried looking it up and searched of PDF documents by fish and game depts. on the subject have a lot of info of fungus infections following stocked fish, and how to prevent this. Some of the diseases like LMBv can be deadly the other fungus types seemed not to be fatal. The info was way to detailed and scientific for me, but its out there Dominick

I was just using the figure you put up. Stop check/raising this is not poker, it's fishing BTW The fishing pressure ideas from the Chunk. I have a Friend, Mr.Sam he's ancient and one of the best plug fisherman I know. He pointed out , when talking about the amount of fishermen on the Chunk on a given day that THEY ARE ALL NOT FISHING FOR BASS, his take on a busy day is the guys pan fishing and bass fishing are the pressure on a busy day the walleye mooks are fishing different parts of the lake using different lures. He may have something there. Agree with your weekday/weekend theory .

Hey why don't you keep all this She Man O stuff in your Dr.Phil Shemano Support Group section?

Hey by the way; I feel a bit insecure and I don't want Catt,George and Matt to think I feel like I know it all now. I have learned so much from you guys and I want to take part in a discussion like this to see how I am doing with my learning I keep logs and want to see how I am doing . I feel like i should still be only listening but I want to know how my thinking is going with all this Dominick

Hey Mook, don't over generalize what I am saying. I am saying there is strong evidence that a small body of water , with high pressure and I can tell you by the amount of people throwing lets say Trick Stick type baits, can ( as in maybe) be the cause of that lure not being as effective, because the bass learn it is not food I have fished with Speedbead,Zel and Sharbite on the Chunk They can all tell you I can throw a trick stick and catch bass, almost at will on certain spots on that lake. But then if I switch up to a Shad Rap( 2004 to 2005 the hottest lure on the Chunk) or a jig head/plastic trailer once I find them and the fish get more aggressive in bitting those lures. What that means I can't say for sure There are 3 ponds I fish heavy and 3 to 4 lbrs for me are common there. which is respectable for these small Northern Ponds. I have seen people on those same spots throwing Spinner baits and Rapalas, which is the local prefrence I go to that same spot when they leave and i throw ( I aint giving up that info) a different bait and i am on fish and they left empty handed so to speak. My success there was by exploiting my notes and not throwing what many others do,.

That is aslo a good point George. I fight my hed constantly to remind my slef of what Zel once said, just in passing while fishing with him. He said" no thats how you think, the fish arent that complicated" I do not know if he realised how important that was for me when he said it. I really do not think that one bass can teach another bass to stay away from a lure. It was called to my attention by my friend Dan, a great musky/smallie guy who fishes the Susquehana theat when fishing Smallies , when one gets hooked or spooked THEIR ACTIONS, darting around or retrieving a hooked smallie through a group of other smallis can and will spook the other fish and turn off a hot bite. That it is better to let that spot rest for a while and come back to it I have seen the same thing in the clear waters of the Chunk; spook a LMB in a group and the group of fish in a small area swim and act differently for a while. It happens over and over again Trick sticks were hot for 2 years, now they are just a ggo dbait. I have seen the same thing happen with Jelly Worms, then all of a sudden i start getting a hot bite on Jelly worms again, and I suspect the same with the trick sticks will happen The turned on bite was mostly with smaller ( one to 2 lb) fish. I suspect, but I am not sure that is another age class of bass growing up and they have not seen the trick stick a 1000 times. I am not even sure having seen a bait a 1000 times affects a bass for the rest of its life. Once again that would be applying human thought abilities to a fish. BUT I WILL CONTINUE TAKING NOTE IN MY LOG TO FOGURE IT OUT! That is what keeps me coming back 8-)

George thanks for bringing up the Berkley thing, I was hoping a more knowledgeable guy would. I did not eve3n go into depth reading his stuff when i found out he worked for Berkley. a little bit too Sham-wowness for me! Catt, man you are stubborn! Unlike me Mr.Open Mindedness 8-) Fishing Pressure; relation to the size of Toledo bend; Toledo Bend: 205000 acre lake with over 1200 miles of Shoreline Mauch Chunk: 336 acres, the Nature walk around the Lake 3.2 miles On a week in July ( 3rd week of July) with the campground full, we took note of about how many boats were on the Lake and how many fished the Shores we came up with 63 people so lets just say that's 100 people a day per 336 acres :that works out to about 0.3 angler per acre, so lets go with your number 25 times more anglers on the Bend than on a Cali(in this case the Chunk) on any given day. 25 times 100 is 2500 right so lets divide the 2500 anglers by those 205 000 acres, the answer +.0122 per that is a huge, very huge difference in pressure that the fish have on them. I would also guess, there may be a few more fish /acre in TB than in Mauch Chunk. You can not fish primarily one kind of water, in one type of climate and generalize ALL OF BASS BEHVIOR as being the same allover. There are generalizations that are true, I learned them from you , so you should know. I also know that LMB in 36 degree water, that will soon freeze over act a lot different ie slower than fish in water that never goes lower than 45". I also know that on a lot of smaller lakes and ponds in NY and PA if I were to completely memorize all the great stuff you and Mat and Randall have put up on the relationship between shad movement and bass location that I may not even catch a single bass, because there are no shad in those lakes What I can and have done is read those informative pieces and try to put that bass/prey relationship on what is in the bodies of water I fish The other thing that has not been discussed here yet is INSTINCT, I watched guys fish the same bed over and over again , literally for hours on Lake Fork and eventually the fear the bass had for the fisherman/lure was over-ridden by the instinct to get what ever was being thrown into that nest out. I don't have 10 hours of my life to sit on one bass, no matter how big to catch it. Many do, and their results speak for themselves. So INSTINT plays a role here, and I think that exploiting that instinct is where the generalizations that work come from However to not pay attention to the locality and type lake/impingement/pond or river you are fishing and try to take what is good on a 2005,000 acre lake in the deep South and apply to to a 336 lake up North, and not try to factor in those differences is hurting your fishing more than helping it.

I bet certain "age group" bass learn to avoid a lot of baits. The reason all the fish in a large body of water do not learn all of them is for one they can't teach each other, the body of water is so large that an individual bass may not have had contact enough with a lure to learn it and finally when you start catching a lot of 2 to 4 lb bass on a lure that went cold for a while I bet it's just the next age group coming up and they haven't learned the bait like their older cousins Every lake in the US is not as Big as Toledo, or Fork and a lot of lakes do not have shad in the north and a lot of the lakes I fish ( 1000 acres or less) have bass showing way different behaviors than you big /warm lake guys see in those fish down there.

Hey Silverfish I really respect where you are coming from! 8-)

Thats just not right!

Hey; Are all those taken in and around the spawn? Could that be caused by nest clearing?