Furbit

I have had no problems with Hot Sauce. We even used it in my partners Shimano's with no issues. I would not say it's the best, but it does work good. I do however think issues will arise when you start mixing brands. If your going to try a new brand, and I think the Reel Mechanic would agree, I would recommend a complete take down and clean.

I have three setups that I really like for frogs. They all have the Quantum Tour PT burner reels and 65lb braid. 1. Powell 735 Frog Rod 2. Quantum Tour PT Dean Rod 3. G-Loomis MBR844c GL3 What I like about the Powell is that I can cast even the lightest frogs with it with ease. It still has all the other things one looks for in a Frog rod, but add to it the casting distance with light frogs and it's a keeper for sure. The Dean Rod being a Quantum get's no respect at all, but I love the Tour PT Rods and this one is a great Frog rod. The haters loss for they have no clue what there missing with this line of rods. If you want a light rod, with plenty of back bone, a fast tip and a rod that can take a beating and keep on ticking, this be it. The GL3 Get's little respect from most, compared to IMX or GLX of which in most fishing app's neither of these two models can be beat IMO, but for Frogs this rod is excellent. Has plenty of back bone, has IMO the perfect tip action for Frogs and it light enough to use all day. If G-Loomis would have used this blank ( I am pretty sure there Frog rod is GL3 in the first place, but they used a lighter action blank of which is why there Frog rod gets such bad reviews IMO) in there Frog rod, I really believe people would be raving about Loomis frog rod. Take this blank, add 2 inches and some SIC guides, or something along that line of guides, and IMO you would have the best Frog rod ever. I also like the Lamiglas Frog Rod a lot but have not purchased one yet. Lamiglass is all my fishing partner uses and I must say they do make a great product IMO.

I almost bought these a couple weeks ago. For like 18 bucks they sure did seem like a nice pair of shades. I normally only use Solar Bats, but the way I lose or break glasses, having a few cheaper pairs around is a must. I believe these also have 2.0mm lens on them which is a good thing. GRRRRRRRRR! Back to wally world I go. I knew I should have bought them in the first place.

TY, roadwarrior and George!

Solar Bat gets my vote.

For the pads I like a 7ft heavy action rod, a high speed reel and 65lb braid. The pads are pretty tuff so strong equipment is what I would recommend. As for which frog, I really like the Mann's Super Frog for the pads. you can work it pretty fast over and threw them, or you can slow it down and just hop it onto the pads and then hop it back into an opening. It also walks pretty well in any opening you find. The main reason for heavy equipment is your going to want to muscle them bass out of the pads as quickly as possible for if they get down deep in the pads your going to need some strong stuff to get them up and out.

Not to change the subject, but how or where do you go to get your scale certified?

Hum, the Spro Popper skips great for me. The Scum Frog Popper is a little harder to skip though, but with practice it will skip.

Two. One was a top of the line at the time, Fenwick of which broke on the very first hook set the very same day I bought it and when I say broke I mean it shattered into a thousand pieces, thank God I had my shades on at the time. Still caught the little 2lber but never again have I bought anything Fenwick, nor shall I simply not only because this rod broke so easy, but I ended up eating it because Fenwick did not honer there warranty. The second rod was a G-Loomis GL3 of which I broke messing around, totally my fault. Hum, funny thing to is that G-Loomis actually does honor there warranty even if it's idiot related. Granted it cost 50 bucks to do so but, 50 bucks for something that was my own fault is a small price to pay for being stupid IMO. OH yeah and the rod snapped in half it did not shatter into a thousand pieces of which is good because I did not have my shades on when I broke it.

Quantum reels are all I have used since the mid 80's. In fact I have 5 from back then that are stick kicking bass, working as good as the day I bought them. Keep them clean and lubed properly and they will last a long time. I have not used the code but IMO I would agree the Accurist PT over the Code, but I would also recommend saving a few extra bucks and getting the Catalyst PT instead for that would be your better bet. I own 3 EX reels and 2 MG reels from back in the day, 2 Accurist PT's, 1 Catalyst PT, 7 Energy's and 6 Tour PT's. I also have two old Browning reels of which I believe where made by Quantum back then, there exactly the same part for part, same part numbers, same looks and all, and have never had any problems with any of them. In fact the only problem I have seen with them is my fishing partners reels in which he never cleans or lubes them and I don't care what brand you buy, if you don't take care of it, it's not going to take care of you.

Nah, not to bad of a drive actually. I am only a few minutes from RT 47, just take that north and I am there in a little over 1 to 1 1/2 hr's as long as I leave before everyone else on the planet wakes up. Coming home is a different story with traffic and all but I kind of like the nice ride back with the a/c going in the truck to relax after being out in the sun all day. As for the Pads, I suggested that very early on but my partner was being a stubborn donkey. He had one bad day of no fish there and trying to get him to agree to check it out again is like pulling teeth. Next time will take my boat and he won't have a choice. Yes that area near the launch looks real good. We where planning on hitting that on the way out but ran out of time. Should be back up there a couple times in mid July since the wife is heading south to visit her folks for a couple weeks. Any tips would be much appreciated.

Well I am no expert on Delavan, only fish it a few times a year and really do not know what all the areas are called but the first few came, well head out from the public launch and turn left and head to the shoreline off S. Shore Dr. From the first dock down to where the shoreline bends. Seawalls, docks and weeds between the docks is where we got the fish. It is also in this area where we tried the 10 ft to 20 ft deep water trying to stay just outside the heavy submerged weed lines. Hitting the edges with jigs. Although as you know one second your in 10ft of water then all the sudden your in 16ft only moving the boat a couple ft. So we did have some trouble staying on the edge, mostly because the Fish finder on the front of the boat was not working so who ever was on the back of the boat had to call out what was going on. Back seat driver so to speak. Most of our catch however was the section of water past N.Shore Rd. Bridge area, where all the town homes are. North side past all the docks to the very back of that area. There are docks on the south side of this area, but the section we caught fish was just across from them where there are no docks. The waters only a ft or two deep in this area but the bass where either in the pockets in the weeds or buried right in the thick stuff right on shore. A lot of cruisers back in there and if you saw them they saw you and jetted out of site. Lots of bluegill beds back in there. I would say most all the fish we caught where in no more then 2ft of water. We did get a couple skipping back under the docks but nothing to write home about. I am guessing if we would have spent more time in deeper water we would have caught more, but we really wanted to give the frogs a work out this time out. No body else out there was fishing as shallow as we where, in fact my partner said I bet these people out here think where from IL or something LOL, we are, but it was working for a time.

The day started out good. We caught 6 nice largemouths in the 3 to 4lb range and two 3lb smallie's both on the Scum Frog Natural Black/Green color and Spro Popper Rain Forest Black color. For some reason I could not get them to hit the Leopard color Spro. However, that was about in the first 2 hours there, after that we could not buy a bite. We even trying jigging from 10 to 20ft of water with no luck. Seen a lot of fish cruising, a couple of monsters at that, but just could not get the strikes, other then a few dinks, after the first couple hours. Hey btw, whats the name of that lake that is on the left hand side of the road if your coming from Delevan to Geneva. is that Como? You can barely see it from the road, grrrrrrrr I can't think of the road name off the top of my head but its the main highway from Delevan to Lake Geneva. Man I can't believe I can't recall the name of the highway, it's 2pm and I think I need more coffee. LOL Sorry to hear about the tourney. Them Wis lakes can be tricky. I never fished the lake your tourney was on but if its anything like Geneva or Delevan I know how it can go at times.

Where is the Tourney? I am going to be up at Lake Delevan today, southern Wis. for some fun fishing. Hench why I am up at 1:30 am on a Sunday Mourning, grrrrrrrrrrr!

I do use the Zoom and Rage, I also do like the looks of that Sizmic but have not tried it yet. I have one or the other tied on one of my rods at all times and do pick it up a few times threw out the day, but really 90 percent of my frog fishing is of the hollow type. Not that I don't think the toads will work as well, I just prefer the Hollow Scum Spro for I can change up how I work it much more so then a toad and I personally can skip the hollow frogs way better then I can a toad, getting it into places I can't with the toad. There is however a couple times in which I pick up the toad rod first and that's when either night fishing or if there really smashing the toad early in the mourning. It also is a good choice when there's a good chop on the water, but the Spro does pretty dang well in the waves also. Nothing at all wrong with the toads, just for me I can do a heck of a lot more damage with the frogs simply because I can do a lot more different things with them them. BTW: I have used the Space Monkey like a toad also and that thing can be killer at times also. In fact that thing looks so alive in the water I would not be surprised at all if a few state records will be broke with the Monkey. Not just on top but anywhere in the water.

No flack from me, it's all I use and I have never had a problem with Quantum reels. I also own a few Tour PT rods and they are great rods, maybe not G-Loomis great, but great none the less.

No Problem. Cast that Spro out and let it sit a few. Walk it a little in place and let it sit some more. Walk, Walk and pop and let it sit some more until you get the rhythm the bass wants for the day. I have had many days where it's when the frog sits after the Walk and pop, where the bass just hammer it while it sits. If there super active walking it at a slow pace all the way back to the boat may be the best bet. I have had a few times also where I casted out and just let it sit while I grab a drink of Dew or light up a smoke, bad idea because if there's any sure way to get a bass to strike it's to not be paying attention. LOL With the Scum Frog Popper, cast out and let it sit a bit. Give it a pop pop and let it sit. Pop pop sit until she strikes. The Scum frog will walk some to, but I have had better luck with the little pops. Also keep in mind that the Scum Frog Popper will without any doubt catch fish of all sizes. I have a lot of confidence in the Spro, but I have absolutely no doubt at all that if there's a fish there, she's going to hit the Scum frog popper. Tournament secrets sort of because I am sure a lot of peeps know this. Sea walls can be killer spots, work the frog as close as possible to the wall. The very shallow end of docks, cast that frog under there, skip it as close to shore and under the dock as possible and work the frog there. Stumps the same thing, keep it in the strike zone as long as possible but being it's a tourney you don't want to waste to much time in one spot unless of course the spot is hot. Then of course you got the weeds. One Spot some seem to overlook is where the weeds meet the shoreline. I see a lot of guys working the outer edge and pockets within and followed them and caught the fish they forgot to try to catch way up shallow, I am talking so shallow you would not think a bass would be there. One other tip I can think of off the top of my head is wind blow cover. here you can really walk and pop that frog hard followed by a pause. Seems the windier it is or the thicker the cover, putting a little more behind it does the trick. And whatever you do, don't set the hook right away, let them take it. I have won and placed a few times with nothing but the frog, but like anything else, the frog bite is either on or off. Of course I tend to not give them much choice and will force feed them if I have to by keeping in there face and juicing the heck out of it with MegaStrike. If that don't work then I will move onto something else. Luckily I guess, I have never been skunked in a tournament with a frog. I say I guess because they have fooled me into thinking the frog bite was on and by the time I figured out they was just playing with me it's to late. LOL The hardest thing IMO while tournament fishing is knowing when to change up, weather that's lures, location or whatever. But hey that's what makes fishing fun. Good Luck Sunday!

X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered. If I were to buy a Spro popper to try,what one color would you should I get? :-? Oh, sorry I miss read your post, but actually any one of those colors should work for you, but if I did had to pick just one I would have to go for the Leopard. If there out of stock on the Leopard, Rain Forest Black would be my next choice followed by Midnight Black and then Green Tree. As for comments on the Spro Popper taking on water, this has not been an issue for me yet as far as it being a real problem. Yes it will at times take on water just like any frog I have tried, but it still stays on top. I do love the Scum Frog also but I have had a few sinkers right out of the package. The Spro JR I have had the same thing from time to time, but so far no sinkers with the Popper and I really hope I did not just jinks myself. HEHE As far as hookups go, I don't know what to say for so far the Spro Popper has been solid in that department. The Regular Spro Frog and JR are not as good as the Popper in this department IMO. In fact twice now I had blows up on the Spro Popper in which I was not paying attention and the bass hooked themselves. Can't get no better then that IMO. Actually I really believe it has more to do with the rod,reel and line one uses then the frog. Since I switched over to good 7ft MH to Heavy action rods, a high speed reel and heavy braid, hookups have not been a problem like in the past. Sure I still miss a few, but I would call that angler error, now that I use the right equipment for the job, instead of frog hooks error. BTW, I hope I am not coming off as a Mr. Know all for I am not a Know All. But put a frog, jig or spinnerbait on the end of my line and I have total confidence in how I go about picking and using such for when I get into something I love to do like fishing these baits I become a student of the highest degree, meaning I have spent hours upon hours upon years trying to master these things simply because I enjoy and love to do such. Put a Swimbait on the end of my line and I am in trouble for I don't have the hours put in I feel is necessary to be really good at something. So please don't take what I say about frogs as being cocky or the law or anything like that. I am just trying to help from my own experiences over 20 some years of bass fishing and sometimes I don't know just how to put things without coming off the wrong way.

The Spro does cast much better but with a good rod and reel you can cast the Scum Frog NP. For the scum frog I use a 7ft mh baitcaster rod teamed with a Quantum Tour PT reel and 40lb braid and it cast just fine, not as far maybe but good enough. I have been throwing the Spro on a G-Loomis MBR 844c with the same make reel but with 65lb braid. If distance is your main concern then yes the Spro will cast a mile. If your looking for the most strikes in a day, then the Scum Frog popper has a track record of doing such. Not saying the Spro can't produce the numbers but it will be a long time before it equals the numbers of the scum frog.

Nice catch! Although I do not believe you need that extra hook with these frogs, the hookup ratio is pretty good, but that's a pretty cool idea you got there. How did you rig that up?

X2 I can understand you guys still using scum frogs because they're cheaper or for nostalgia's sake but seriously spro frogs (or even bobby's perfect or swamp donkey's) are lightyears ahead of scum frogs. The improvement in hook up ratio from scum frogs to spro bronzeye's is huge and they cast much better as well. As I stated I do love the Spro Popper, but the reason to keep using Scum Frog poppers also is for me anyways, is that they flat out catch fish. They may be cheap, they may not have as good of hooks, they land upside down a lot of the time and they don't cast as well as the Spro, but they flat out catch fish. I am all for new and improved but kicking something that produces like the Scum Frog to the curb just does not make any sense. Like iceintheveins said, both. For the Spro I have had good luck with Leopard, Midnight Black and rain Forest Black. Green Tree is also good at times. For Scum Frog Poppers of which I have been using for years there is only two colors you need, Solid Black and Natural black/Green. These two colors have produced for me from IL to MN to OK to Texas, to Cali. This is not to say the other colors won't work for they will, but with these two I feel I am covered.

The Scum Frog Popper is one heck of a fish producing frog. I have used it for many years and it has been my favorite for many many years, but I got to say I absolutely love the new Spro Popper. I won't be throwing out my Scum Frog Poppers anytime soon, I mean how could I with all the fish they have produced for me over the years, but they have officially taken a back seat to The Spro this season.

Thank you Bobby and thank you for a great product.

My all time favorite by far is a frog. It may not be productive at all times, but it is by far my favorite bait to fish with.

Thanks! As for telling the difference, the only way I could tell is the new formula, even in it's plastic shell wrap that it comes in, you can without any doubt smell the stuff. Some say it smells like garlic others say dead shad, whatever the case it does give off an odor that the old stuff did not. It won't knock you to your knees like some scents out there of which is a good thing, but you can for sure smell the new stuff threw the package. Best way to be sure since the package does not say new or old is to order direct from MegaStrike or go to the local fishing store and take a whiff. Tackle Warehouse is a good bet since they move product there like crazy, but it's possible they still have some of the old so like I said, your best bet is to either smell it first before buying or order direct. Sorry I can't be of more help then that, but that's the only way I can tell the difference for the package is exactly the same. Thank You.