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Depends on what type of lures you are planning to throw and honestly, what that rod is rated for. I assume you are planning to get the MH version of that combo. I have a couple MH and H rods set up with 30lb braid and a steel leader for when we go back home to MInnesota and throw light northern stuff on it like spinnerbaits, #5 Mepps, or even the smaller "Musky Killer" inline spinners. I have a 6.4:1 Revo S on the MH and a Bantam MGL on the H. They work ok for throwing smaller stuff and catching 30"-40" Northerns as a rule. If you are wanting to throw some of the bigger Northern and Muskie lures, you are going to want to step the rod AND reel up a bit as a MH is likely only rated for up to about 1oz lures and many of the larger baits get up into the 2-6oz range. A heavier rod rated for those heavier weights and a 300 - 400 size reel would be a better setup for that.

I don't think it's a design or build quality issue with today's reels that is being questioned. I agree that they perform well, but am not so convinced they will last as long with all the plastic injection molded parts. That being said, the original post asked which ones will hold value. My opinion is very few stand out enough for people to want them enough to place value on them down the road. Doyo reels are good reels, but very few stand out. I don't think the myriad of current Daiwa or Shimano models differ enough to stand out either,... Not like the Daiwa Pixy, TDZ, ITO, or Megabass models did in the past. There are currently lots of different Shimano reels with slight differences betwen them too, but when people talk favorites, I hear Core 100, 50, and Curado D's and E's mentioned more than I do Chronarchs, METs, or DCs. People value the items that stand out or are different, and different just seems more rare these days in my opinion.

I honestly like the one with the largest spool diameter that still balances well. Sometimes a 3000 may not have a significantly larger frame, but may have a larger diameter spool. In my experience, a larger spool typically has larger coils to the memory. (For mono that is). I realize you said you would likely be using braid, so not an issue in that case, but I still think a larger spool casts better. In most cases I usually go with 2500 or 3000 with the 2500s on 6'6" or shorter and the 3000s on the longer rods hoping for better balance.

Maybe tube jigs, or dropshotting? Maybe the rig Gustafson won the classic with. What's it called,... A Damiki rig, or something like that

I have a couple of the 736CB Glass. I'm currently running them with a couple clean old Calcutta 101 lefties loaded with straight braid. I like the combination because the braid gives me good feedback and hooksets, but the glass rod dulls some of the vibration so it isn't hand numbing. I'm typically running a Jackhammer or Thundercricket on one and a Siebert Fogy on the other depending on how much thump I want. I like them because you can see that tip picking up all the vibration, but if anything even swims by or swipes at it enough to disturb the shake you can notice a difference.

Was there any actual bids at that price? I kind of went down the rabbit hole a bit buying various old TD Fuegos, TDX and TDZ reels. The ones in that upper price range tend to sit with no bids or at Buy Now stage with no movement. The ones I have bought have ranged from $50 to $150 in various levels of condition. Recently picked up a very clean TDZ 103HL Type R that is the left handed pitching model for $130 I think. The older classics like the Team Daiwa or the Shimano D and E series or Core series seem to hold good value. Don't know that much from today will hold up like that. Maybe some Steez or Conquest reels,...... Maybe??

I think the 705cb works for pretty much all of it except the Texas Rig. If you want to include that, then I think the 703 or 733 might be the better fit.

I was chatting with the bait monkey and he expressed how much he does NOT like this thread and is taking notes of all of you that have posted!! In all honesty, I could probably make due with a M/F spinning and a MH casting, but where's the fun in that. I can always use another rod and reel setup! (He's watching me!!!)

I'm not a big fan of the Mojo series as they always seem tip heavy to me. The one exception is the 7' MHMF "Spinnerbait" model. For whatever reason, I really like that rod! It seems well balanced and has a soft tip. I have used it for small spinnerbaits, small vibrationg jigs, whopper plopper 90s and Choppos, etc. I was once throwing a Choppo on it for smallies in Ontario and got bit off by a northern. I tied on a Rapala OG Slim to throw a crank for a while and had a muskie grab the back hook. Had to take my time working him to the boat but it did it. Lost it as we were struggling to net it (too big for net) but the rod and reel (New Zillion SV TW) did well for what it was. Estimated size was about 50"-53" Wife will testify as a witness as she was staring it down face to face holding the net. I actually like the Fury line at that price point, especially the 705cb and 733c, but also agree with the Falcon Lowrider and Ark Tharp series. I have an Ark Catalyzer and an Ark Tharp Hammer and like them both!

^^ Agreed,.... I have a BG 3000 and some 2500 and 3000 Fuego LTs. The BG is a nice reel, but it weighs more than 10.5oz compared to the Fuego at just over 7oz I know 3 oz isn't a lot, but a nearly 50% increase in weight is noticeable. I run the Fuegos on my lighter rods and put the heavier BG on a more tip heavy rod to try to balance it out better. I do like the Daiwa spinning reels in that price area! Though once you get above that, I found myself switching brands and taking advantage of good deals on Stradics and Vanfords.

I have always thought Yum plastics tore up pretty quickly. They are soft, and you can catch some fish with them, but they dont seem to last long. I mainly use bulk stickbaits I got from a place in Alexandria MN called Christophersons. My brother lived up there and I would stop by and buy bulk bags when I was there. I think someone said Big Bite makes them for them, but not sure on that. They have a store on the big auction site and I have ordered them there too.

I looked and saw the sane thing. Stradic spool looked to be out stock til September, but looked like they had the Vanford. Thanks again A Jay!! .....And everyone else!,... Had no idea Bass Pro carried spools either.

Thanks AJ! I'm seeing Fishshop.Shimano.com, but wanted to make sure that was correct

Is there a specific website? ... Or just Shimano.com?

Picked up a couple Vanford 3000 reels this year and recently saw a good deal on Stradic 3000 FL and bought two. I'd like to get at least 1 spare spool for each but don't know who may carry them. Looking for suggestions. For that matter,... Same question on Daiwa Fuego spinning reels.

I use both. I agree the WP is a softer "glug" as Darth said. The Choppo seems to have a harder chop to it and makes more noise. Name fits in my opinion. I have caught a TON of fish with them in all colors.... Bone White, black Loon, frog, perch, silver with black back,... etc. Smallies up in the Canadian shield glacier lakes LOVE them!,... Unfortunately, so do the Northern Pike and Musky! I watch for sales and keep stocked up. Choppo goes on sale more often!

Gurss that answers that!

I am more of a Daiwa guy myself, but do have a varied selection of Shimano casting reels as well. Most of my Shimanos have the external dial, but I do have some Callcuttas, Scorpions, and SLX without the dial. On the ones without the dial, I typically set 2-3 brakes in the On position as a starting point and go from there. I believe the dial just gives you adjustment range in between different numbers of brakes on. As for the DC reels,... I have an SLX DC and a Curado DC. In my personal experience, I don't know that I could say the DC casts any further than my other Shimano reels. And yes,... for me,.. the noise gets a little irritating after a while. I wouldn't even say the DC reels backlash any less. My wife is OK using a casting reel, but doesn't always have the smoothest casts and can be a little hesitant/jerky with her casts, the DC reels don't like that at all and she has actually done better with MGL reels or Daiwa magforce reels. What I will say is the DC reels have less brake adjustment. Set them to 2 or 3 depending on what line you're using or 4 for max brake and cast away.

I can see where the triangular shape could be a benefit. Years ago Washburn had a triangular shaped neck on some of their guitars. I've got an 80's A-10 "Stage Series" Washburn that has it and it really does make a comfortable grup. That being said, I think I would be more apt to like it on the spinning rods as I like a spinning rod with a foregrip and hate rods with threads in front of the reel. When it comes to baitcasters, I am typically palming the reel (even while casting) and as Mike from DVT suggested, I care less about the handle shape and more about the reel seat. I kind of appreciate St. Croix thinking outside the box though. The Legend Extreme is a departure from the norm too. I picked up a "B" condition Extreme at the factory store in Park Falls ( only way I can justify $$) and am still trying to decide if I like it.... I don't dislike it though

I agree with this^^ If you look,... The majority of their rod space is all BPS branded rods. About the only other things they carry is some Pure Fishing products (Lower level Fenwick, Abu and Berkley) some lower level St Croix, and a few lower level Duckett rods. I can't honestly remember the last time I bought a rod from BPS. Getting to be about the same with reels.

Quick question, .... What do you use for internal tube weights (not trying to hijack). I use Lindy tube weights but they were bought out by XPS and then they stopped making them and I'm running out. As for tungsten weights,.. I agree that Sieberts is a good option. His 10pk pricing is a pretty good deal, especially when he puts them on sale.

I fish it both ways and often vary the retrieve to see what they want. Sometimes they want a slow steady retrieve, but other times pulsing it with pauses in between, like you would a popper or jerkbait, can really get them going.

I think the 20lb flouro will be fine. My 736cb glass rods have straight braid on Shimano Calcutta 151s for chatterbaits that simulate craws or blegill I run around vegetation. I like the braid on the glass rods for good feel of the blade and solid hooksets. I have a couple other MH/F setups that are white, white/chartreuse, or silver to simulate minnows and shad that I run straight flouro on. If I remember right I am currently running 17 or 20lb ob those right now myself.

I had one in a cranking rod and wanted to like it but just didn't. I don't know how to describe what I didn't like though. It just had a REALLY soft tip and loaded up so much it was like casting a slingshot. That's just my opinion though. Had the same opinion on all the Ducketts I had and ended up trading them all in. I had an Incite, 3 Micro Magic Pros, and a Ghost that I traded in. The only one I kept was a Terex Dean Rojas frog rod. I know some really like them. I'm just not one of them

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