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no, it has to be a Tatula spool with longer spindle. The only moving rotor Tatula spool I can find on Express website is 32 mm for '20 Tatula. Give a fixed rotor a try - if you have a smooth cast, it won't be a problem and will cast your lures into next week.

yes, that will save you a lot of potential start-up backlash with (inadvertent) added snap at beginning or end of your cast stroke. Folks seem to like the blue Ray's Studio SV spool on my Zillion - going into 4th year in salt ML niche (1/8 oz) without ever a backlash, and always casts farther than I need.

Fixed inductor spools are by far the lightest, e.g., Roro-X and AMO. These are down to 4 g, and will cast the lightest lures notably farther than anything else out there. You also need to stick to light lures with them and cast without jerk. They have no defense against start-up jerk if you cast heavier lures (3/8+ oz) or snap your wrist. The fixed rotor turns your SV into a full-time linear mag brake (solving mid-cast backlash). Moving inductor spools such as Ray's Studio are a bit heavier (7 g), totally forgiving, and make up for all the shortcomings of stock Daiwa spools. They will still cast 1/8 oz beyond your dreams, but not quite in the 1/16-oz league as the Roro and AMO spools described above. What they add is the ability to fish heavier lures and you don't need to be very particular about your cast. The moving rotor acts like a centrifugal brake to eliminate start-up overshoot (backlash) from spool jerk.

Adding to that, when you get a big fish in shallow water, and you're in a kayak, whether it's a bass on a wide flagstone river bottom, or redfish in the grass, you must have enough rod to stop them from going under the boat. Their aim is not to go down, but to go 30 yards wide of you on the other side. If your rod is too soft and they take it against the hull, the leverage will simply make it explode. Of course you're guiding the rod around the boat when you can, but a strong fish close to the boat still has a few exploding lunges left in them. It's different when you're in deeper open water or even wading - you can wait out a fish using a rod with less butt power.

I'm the full-time Japan shopper, so I throw in ZPI Racing or Hedgehog Alchemy depending on where I'm loading up a cart. Here in the US, SurfcastProShop normally carries RocketReelCo RocketFuel from UK, but he's totally OOS. BaitFinesseEmpire normally carries Shimano and Hedgehog, and he's totally OOS. Tried CarolinaFishing, who normally carries ZPI - OOS. TackleTrap comes through - medium light and drag-down shows ultralight https://tackletrap.com/products/hedgehog-studio-alchemy-oil-medium-light?_pos=1&_sid=1bb6daa64&_ss=r @galyonj - they formulate the oil viscosity and their "secret" ingredient is nano-diamond that polishes everything in its path. https://zpi-japan.com/products/F-zero.html#extralong_cast They're in all the products I listed, and regardless of opinion, they win casting tournaments. And of course the subject here is micro-casting - getting the most with light weight. On unsheilded spool bearings, you never need more than a drop, but you need that drop about 1/mo when you're fishing. Odds are, you'll never empty the bottle.

@Fishing_Rod my back acre is 150' wide, with a clearing the full width, and conveniently spaced wild shrubs for distance markers (also make good skip-cast targets). I'm able to do distance trials swapping different rods, spools and spool bearings. Since I shore-fish salt, mostly in winter imitating glass minnows (tide passes and nite-lite dock fishing a navigation channel), dialing in distance and reliable casts are very important for that niche.

@ghost thanks again, it was a great question that allowed me to sneak in some useful stuff. To me, it's the US system that rates everything by lb-test that confuses everyone. The rest of the world uses diameter for lines and line capacity, and Japan sticks to their traditional silk thread diameter scale, even using it on mono and fluoro leader. (#3 leader, #1.5 1520 large frame spinning spool)

@ghost - right here, friend PE#, dia., equiv. mono, braid test (varies greatly by braid mfg, and spool capacity is based on diameter.) Per Jun Sonada, you can fish down to PE#1 on a reel with a swapped-in BFS spool. Smaller than that, you should be using a reel with increased LW pitch to prevent line dig., e.g., Silver Wolf, Air, etc. All that said, I have no troubles fishing PE#0.8 on BFS-mod Ambassadeur 1500C, and Steez I showed in my first post, which is my best light-lure caster.

Shimano Magestic B68L-BFS-2 2-15 g That's only 1/8 oz lower top end and on a 7-inch shorter rod. No problem on either of the fish in my first post. good thing no one put you in charge

Daiwa BBB kicks butt. My buddy Lou bought a spinner and and loves it. He wanted it to fish with the grandkids, but now he takes it everywhere - lake, inshore, even our winter nite-lite dock fishing trip. At the same time he bought the BBB, I bought a Smith telescope stream casting rod, and it's a better rod than the 2-pc Tailwalk I had in the same niche. The Japanese telescoping rods are first-rate. The market exists there because they travel everywhere by train. Lou has caught more on the BBB than this maiden bluegill.

Your best bet for a 2013 is probably to hunt on ebay - good luck.

You have two different things represented there. In JDM, they identify model change years by the year itself - they offer more models of reels with different gear ratios. The USM imported reels are all high-geared, and identify the model change year by letters - FA, FK, etc. The HG is simply the high-gear ratio on the JDM model body that was sold with the spool you found. The '19 Yumeya catalog page below identifies Shimano spools by pitch - spool number - for each JDM model supported by Shimano. The only Stradic Ci4+ still supported by Shimano is 2016 model. In '20, this model was replaced with Vanford (and a larger pitch across the range matching '18 Stella) The catalog page indicates you'll get the right pitch compatibility for a 2500 on an S-23 medium-frame spool. (note C2500 is a small frame reel w/ S-25 spool) If you do have a medium frame, it will also accept a C3000 spool. You might look here to see if this is what you're looking for '16 Stradic Ci4+ https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/product-list/520 Unfortunately, I don't know enough about older Shimano reels - I've only been buying Shimano spinning reels since '19 models.

Try our friend from Ukraine, SDS Custom https://www.ebay.com/itm/254303849416 https://www.ebay.com/str/sdscustomreels @Fishingmickey's link is the choicest handle made, along with Studio Composite. Titanium knob spindles, carbon tubes in the handles - they're notably lighter than the stock handles. SDS sells quality parts from the Pacific rim. He sells Ray's Studio parts. I put his EVA knobs on a Lew's TP, and they were very nice.

@Fishing_Rod Wading limestone headwaters creeks in the TX hill country is our version of bust-in stream trout fishing, and we call our endemic spotted bass "Texas Brook Trout" - they occupy the same fast niche in warmwater that trout do in cold. There are several headwaters where you can't park on county roads. To access those, we bike-fish, park on a state road, pedal to several county road crossings in a morning, where we roll our bikes into the flood plain sendero and cafe-lock to a tree - you're out of the county right of way, and into state navigation rights. BFS 1500CI with telescoping Smith stream rod, 1-7 g - the collapsed combo fits in a bike half-frame bag, and travels rigged to fish.

This is the JDM Underground version. Smith Plugger synchro reel with Try-Angle BFS spool. Matched with Smith Super Strike FO-56 glass ML rod

How about that, I was just talking about micro rods of the late 70s. This rod defines short para pocket rocket. - it really is a stunning light-lure distance caster, without any backbone to turn a fish. For some reason, the Japanese call para taper "sticky" @FishTank I received Minicast just like it when I was 19 - Christmas present. Following May, I landed a 6-1/2-lb bass on it - my dad was freaking - get it in the boat. I fished through the reel on white bass. One night that summer on a lighted tee-pier on Lake LBJ, I caught one every third cast, casting out 1/16 oz Panther Martin, sitting down to let the whole line sink, and exactly following their path up the sandy cove bottom to the dock light. They were sweeping through the light to feed and running back to the cooler deep water. Others on the dock ran to the bait shop in town and came back with spinners, but I was the only one who caught fish - 17 on my stringer. Made a fish fry for all the neighbors (nothing beats my mom's hush puppies). @Fishing_Rod welcome to BR and 6-lb mono is definitely in the #1 thread ballpark.

@FishTank if you want friend, you can edit, select all, copy (don't put cursor on a photo, but text) and paste it into a new post on that thread. I'll do the same with my fish story, and use the same example for para rod taper - pocket rocket. The little rod is really a stunning light-lure distance caster, without any backbone to turn a fish. For some reason, the Japanese call this taper "sticky" https://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=39448&p=424472&hilit=sticky#p424472

@FishTank I received Minicast just like it when I was 19 - Christmas present. Following May, I landed a 6-1/2-lb bass on it - my dad was freaking - get it in the boat. I fished through the reel on white bass. One night that summer on a lighted tee-pier on Lake LBJ, I caught one every third cast, casting out 1/16 oz Panther Martin, sitting down to let the whole line sink, and exactly following their path up the sandy cove bottom to the dock light. They were sweeping through the light to feed and running back to the cooler deep water. Others on the dock ran to the bait shop in town and came back with spinners, but I was the only one who caught fish - 17 on my stringer. Made a fish fry for all the neighbors (nothing beats my mom's hush puppies). (and to make this on topic, my favorite Ambassadeur)

Mike and his son have been nailing walleye - this just in Where are all those other Ambassadeur photos?

@redmeansdistortion I have the same-frame C3000MHG spool loaded with 150m PE#1.2 and it's a perfect match - his spool is smaller diameter and lower capacity. PE#0.8 is just right for the spool capacity, but his experience fishing thicker line seems limited by line strength, toughness, and the fact that the line he's using is thicker than advertised. Based on this chart, he can barely get 100 yds on the spool, and it sounds like he's not filling it. I'm going to poo-poo your recommendation, and stick with mine. Since it was commercialized in 2018, Izanas X-braid has also become the standard X8 braid in Japan, whether they mark it X-braid, upgrade, etc. - Varivas, Duel, Gosen, YGK, who puts Izanas name on their box - most use the same braid, with variances in their choice of FEP coating.

@redmeansdistortion Yes, kings are big game, and demand room to run - good drag and a lot of line to peel. Silvers (coho) - everything about them reminds me of redfish, from sight-fishing their wakes in side sloughs, to their shoulders and stamina in a fight.

You've had several recommendations on this thread to use slightly thinner braid with twice the breaking strength. Sufix 832 states diameter of their 10-lb test is 0.20 mm, and as I already pointed out, their line is always slightly thicker than their reported diameter. 0.185 mm (PE#1.2) Japan standard braid has a breaking strength of 24 to 27 lbs. More line on your spool, more than twice as strong. Slightly smaller PE#1, 0.165 mm dia., has a breaking strength of 20 lbs. hmmm - do you see the trend - maybe blaming the spool is looking the wrong way.

The manufacturer of the reel seat is Fuji.

Back-up spool @Reel is a great idea. Every one of my spinning reel sizes has one back-up spool. Susie's 25" spec made two 50-yd runs. The second run was down the dock row, and would have cut off her 50 yds if the lodge shuttle pontoon boat had been parked at the dock next door (it was docked at the lodge across the channel).

@Ohioguy25 if you're asking me, you should switch lines and fill up your spool. Check out Varivas US website or Amazon store. Their same diameter will be 20-lb test, so you can go smaller. If you want to fish mono/fluoro, pick a deep spool - the line lay error that adds up stacking threadline won't show up. Different reel, this is a Tica worm-drive. On the right will fish, but you can see the hourglass, and it's properly backed with heavy braid.