Tatulatard

Is the red fox the reall raspy sounding one? I read those perform pretty good if you can get past the noise

This is it. You can also see the wear on the face of the pinon from the spool pin.

Higher number more better. Unless it's weight, then that's bad! This is the current sentiment. Not that I agree with it.

A 1/2 oz hunk of lead on a hook with a blade, a skirt and a zako trailer is going to be pushing 1oz. I wouldn't want a MH for that let alone a M. If that MH is rated up to 1 1/2 oz then sure but most top out at 1oz. Useable sure, but outside the sweetspot.

Back in 2018 when the fuego ct was $65 and only based on a 2 year old platform that itself is a narrow spool version of what was then a 4 year old platform. Now you're lucky to get one for $85 in 2022 and it's still the same reel from 2017 or whenever it came out.

I would chose the aluminum frame custom pro. The Lite is made from similar material to the ground carbon power mixed polymer materail tested here. It performs very poorly compared to long strand carbon or aluminum.

I see. They screwed up and it says both now. It's a centrifugal reel until the specs are listed and then its a magnetic reel. I was waiting for the centrifugal reel. I think it was a TW mistake all along.

Weird. I still see it one the mobile version.

There is a massive price difference between a usdm and jdm metanium. Part of this is the current exchange rate but part of is is also the the heavy discounts these Japanese retailers are offering. I haven't seen a good fishing reel sale in the US since before covid yet the usual Japanese sites have been offering the normal heavy discounts the whole time. I chalked this up to the explosion in bass fishing during the lockdowns causing high demand to exceed supply and us retailers being resistant to returning to normal and still going "mrsp or no deal". My tatula elite was the nail in the coffin. I got that for $180 from non us retailers when they all wanted $230+. Same reel and it was paid for in usd.

My paper towels get smaller for the same price but abu can't srinkflate the revo to a 6 oz 32 millimeter spool reel for $100... For the usdm market. Prices have never been better on overseas markets.... even in usd for us models, leaning me to belive Its not an exchange rate thing but a us retailer "issue".

The reels Lews uses have shallow spools and they sell them but they locked behind a doyo korea language barrier. I know I stumbled across a section of their site with spools for sale once but it was all in Korean. It would be easier to have the stuff for sale from a 3rd party with a more friendly site to navigate through but I don't know of any such thing. It's sucks that there are no chinease spools for them either like the abu low pros. A shallow, light weight magnetic spool can be really good at skipping and casting baits to cover effortlessly with a flat trajectory. I have a daiwa fixed rotor I use for this. There is always the remote possibility an abu spool might work but its slim. Anyone try to fit a black max 3 spool to a Lews LFS?

SLX or Fuego CT. Lews LFS if you don't mind that type of mag only brake.

I have no hope of prices coming down on usdm stuff. We went into a fishing gear price bubble in 2020 and it hasn't come down in the us since but prices returned to normal on over seas markets. My last two new reel purchases were a $178 tatula elite and $223 alphas 800 with the us prices for these being $250 and $300. None to pleased about many us retailers being "out of stock" on rods that were to be increased in price and the millisecond the price increased the stock was back.

Are they still saying that the standard is a centrifugal reel?

You just have to retrain your left hand but it can be really hard. I tried a left hand reel too but have the same problem as you. I think it is because spinning reels are a little different from a baitcaster. I notice I make more of an oval shaped rotation with my hand and also my forearm moves when cranking and the two somehow make a circle rotation of the handle with a spinning reel. With casting reels my forearm stays put and only my hand rotates but it rotates in a circle. Because the left one was trained by a spinning reel and using my forearm and wrist to rotate it fails miserably when just making circles with the hand and makes ovals instead which make a jerky motion on the handle. If I kept at it I could retrain but I have to change up grips when palming after casting anyways so I might as well just change up hands in the process since I don't see the benefit.

If modified to crank backwards then it will spin backwards when gravity pulls the bucket down. You want the ability to crank forwards and backwards to raise and lower the bucket but also stop the bucket and let it hang? A spinning reel with an anti reverse switch mounted to a broken rod woukd have been better. Otherwise, your only option is to attach a hook to the bucket so once cranked all the way up it can hang on the hook or to purchase a small winch with locking mechanism.

I have and like a H XF for these exact baits from a 5/16 finesse jig up to 1/2 oz jig. Its the orochi perfect pitch is great but they aren't super light weight, even the new ones. The new LTB power finesse has my eye as a similar rod but I'm not sure how these will balance out with a 5 oz reel. A lot of jdm rods are built to pitch finesse jigs and up to 3/8 oz jig and are super light weight but have no us warranty. Something to be aware of if you can't find what you want in the usdm. There are also rods from daiwa and shimano like the usdm steez that may for the bill depending on how heavy a bait you want to go. Look at the "target sniper", "the sensor" and "the power pitch". I'm not sure if shimano has a usdm posion glorious line of rods but they probably have something similar.

Like actual and listed diameter being not being equal. I've had braids of the same listed diameters from two different brands be considerably different in actual diameter.

What braid is it? Maybe it runs a bit big in diameter.

So rather than use the centrifugal brakes with these we remove them and then crank down on the spool tension brake knob? These are outside my wheelhouse but that seems strange. Shows how much I know about these.

Much smaller and better palming. 6.9 oz vs nearly 8 oz of the 150. The spool in the elite casts much better too. It's very effortless in how is casts and makes long casts. The 150 spool is heavy and casts fine but its not effortless and you gotta lean into it to get that 16 grams plus line moving. Not the case with the elite long cast. You can learn either. The reason for this prevalence of right hand reels was because with baitcasters the proper casting techinque is to change up grips between casting and palming the reel unlike a spinning reel where you hold it the same when casting and reeling. Because you have to change up hand positions most just change hands when doing this and use the right hand to both cast and reel but you can still do the same thing with a left hand reel. Might was well start now with a left hand reel of you're starting with bait casters from scratch.

My personal recommendation would be to get the tatula elite off aliexpress for that $170 instead of the full retail price tatula 150. I have both and the elite is absolutely the better reel. At full retail the tatula elite is a bit pricy.

Magforce z.

I always chuckle at the advice to turn your brakes off and only use your thumb... on a reel with the spools tension (a powerful brake) cranked down to a slow drop. I do have a preference for centrifugal or daiwa magforce z with baits that cast like bullets and braided line. For heavy flouro I like daiwa sv and tws reels but it don't use that line goop and feel like the braking of the sv spool keeps the line under control. I also like sv for bank work casting plastics to cover, magforce z for all around and centrifugal for long casting with braid.

Depends on condition. Scratched up reels aren't worth much even if they work just fine.