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Yes, I like the Bass Pro XPS also. I purchased some Youzuri H2O because here on Bull Shoals with the water so clear but with a slight green tint green tint mono has always worked better and at times the fish seem to shy from some flouro. It may be they are picking up some type of contrast difference, but I am not sure. Youzuri H20 comes in a geen tint that I thought I would try alongside the clear to see if the green tint would make a positive difference or not. You never know until the fish tell you their opinion because the fish around here are very educated don't you know.

TackleTour Fluorocarbon Showdown had a very interesting article on Fluorocarbon lines. One intersting thing in the conclusions was that "for now, realize that we were able to validate some myths (water absorption, abrasion resistance) debunk others (low stretch), and at least, call to question the claims of still more (poor knot strength) when compared against a popular and widely used monofilament like Berkley's Trilene XL." The tests they ran showed "The one thing we can clearly state is, all the fluorocarbon lines we tested have either the same, or in some cases, more stretch than our baseline Trilene XL." Here are the brands they tested: Complete Article here:http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontestpg5.html Further tests look most interesting to prove or disprove commonly held views about fluorocarbon lines. How have these results related to members experience in the field with theses listed products? I hope members will reply to show their experience with these same products. I just bought some Youzuri H2O to test on Bull Shoals to see how it performs and will post on it later.

Stinky Journalism investigation debunks AP and FOX News "Giant Hog with Small Boy" Photo StinkyJournalism.com enlisted the help of a retired New York University physicist, Richard Brandt, who offers what he says is a "technical analysis" of the Stone family's claim. The site also claims to have evidence that other photos on the family Web site were doctored to make the feral hog look bigger than life. See the whole story at http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/newsdetail.php?id=45

Roger on that! Prayer for family and you will be SOP! Take care brother!!!

Muddy_ Man, are you going to wear your new realease cap with your Mook Team T-Shirt?

Muddy, PM on the way!

OK, Muddy how about "Fillet and Release" ;D I release the vast majority of the fish I catch alive by the way. PS Where those sticks you were asking for by chance Ugly Sticks???? ;D

There is more than one type of trash in this world and it looks like you ran across some. Having owned and operated SouthFork Resort on the south fork of the Spring River in north Arkansas for canoe and kayak trips before selling and final full retirement, I and friends along the rivers there also had to deal with that type. The South Fork of the Spring River is a quality smallmouth stream. Thank you for making a stand for the land, water and what is right. You deserve a hat tip as many now days would just let it pass.

I bow hunted from the time I was a young boy with barebow recurves and longbows but can no longer do so due to my nerve disease. My last bow was a beautiful custom longbow that I was never able to hunt with. Like you I did a lot of hunting from a tree stand however where I received my most treasured memories was scouting with my best friend. He and I spent countless hours tracking and studying different animals growing up in the hills and swamps of southern Arkansas. We learned to pattern deer down so we knew where they bedded, traveled, what escape routes they preferred, the foods they preferred. We learned each deer's personality. Then we chose a particular buck that we would intensely watch to find the perfect place to set up for him. The woods in southern Arkansas are so thick it is extremely hard to sneak within bow range. So, we mostly became so familiar with our chosen buck we could see in our mind as he would awaken, start his daily routine and visualize him as he was approaching before we actually saw him at our ambush site either on the ground or in a tree. Those are my treasured memories as I hope you are making some of your own as you take the time to see and experience all God's creation for its natural beautify. A bow truly allows man to understand his relationship with nature as his forefathers did for thousands of years before him and before the age of machines if he will allow it to.

As an Eagle Scout with my best friend being American Indian I believe in the practice of leaving any place at least as clean as I found it and if others have left the mark of man upon it try to moderate that affect. A father that because he wanted me to have the benefits of scouting and there was no Boy Scout Troop, started scout troops wherever we lived until I achieved Eagle blessed me. I have benefited from that all my life. All boys should be bleesed with such fathers as I had.

One of the biggest problems that the majority of modern day American suffers from is that they have become totally insulated form the reality of human existence. By that, I mean they have lost touch, as how to survive of the land be it how to grow your own food crops or raise animals as livestock. I'm 57 now and I grew up in the deep southern part of Arkansas where you learned from an early age what "life" and "survival" was all about. While one of my grand fathers, raised cattle in addition to his "oil patch" job the other farmed vegetables to feed family. Today people have lost touch with how hard that is. If you want to eat meat you kill animals and that is not as clean and sterile as we often would like to think of it. As a child, I had to help kill and butcher cattle as that was part of family life in order to later eat that steak, and we ground our own hamburger. Today the average American walks into an air-conditioned supermarket to pick out a bright wrapped package of meat without a thought of what it takes to get that package there. Once upon a time children grew up first helping remove stones out of a mule pulled plow like my grandfathers and later to use that same plow. The majority of Americans alive today forget that air-conditioning, dishwashers, and even indoor toilets were not common as recently as when my generation were children in many parts of this nation. Life like war is not always pretty or clean and there are those that choose alternatives. Animals should be treated as humanly as possible and those that do not do so should be prosecuted. However, as long as animals are used as food it will never be pretty. I chose to be a Vegan for several years (when I was younger) however that is a personal choice and one I believe no one has the right to try to force upon others as most of the animal rights groups do. From my first hand experience with such groups I have personally found they put more emphasis on their organizations, the idea of animals, animals and human life mostly in that order. Check and see how much money these groups actually put toward animal welfare especially wildlife as compared to the people these fanatics attack claiming they (hunters, fishermen, even ranchers) spend toward actual programs that physically benefit the animals and not videos and propaganda designed to elicit donations. Let PETA "PUT THEIR MONEY WHER THEIR MOUTH IS" if they can spare the time from slaughtering pets from Vets they told they would find homes for the pets only to kill the pets as soon as they got them to their vans.

Growing up in the southern part Arkansas in the 50s and 60s my best friend (American Indian) and I bowfished carp. At the end of each trip we delivered our "kill" to the poor around the lake that were there fishing to eat and not just for fun. If they caught nothing they just might go to sleep hungry. Many times we would have to make the "threat" to throw them away if these poor would not take them as they often would protest that they did not "want to take our fish." People like those that join Peta I doubt seriously have ever lived in an area and daily witnessed that type of grinding poverty much less gone without food on the chance another might do the same even when your belly is gnawing at your backbone at the sight of that offered food.

Hey, Muddy, I understand. Before the onset of my neurological disease, I lifted freeweights at a place called the Iron Jungle and was 235lb. with low body fat. At 6' 5 that was good but with the side effects of the disease, all the medications, and a couch potato existence I am now a Type II diabetic and 338bs. Now I also have arthritis in my right knee from having it reconstructed from an ACL injury while playing basketball years ago so even walking long distances is a challenge. So far, I have started increasing my energy output and I am down from my highest weight of 349 but as the younger ones will find out, as you get older the pounds come easier and leave harder. Even in my Late 40s, I remember the good old days when I could drop 20lb. easy. Now they about drop me to lose them, as you well know Muddy. My blood sugar is in control with metformin. I have purchased a bowflex and some good walking shoes but biggest help is my wife has found a new help for her diabetes from a new prescription drug called Lantus (http://www.lantus.com/default.aspx) and it has done wonders for her as she was on two types of insulin injections with her blood sugar still out of control. It has greatly helped her get her blood sugars under control and her eating, as she is a quantity eater. In one month she has lost 15lbs. and her blood sugars have gone from an average in the mid 200s to the low 100s and her eating is totally in control which also brings mine in line, thank God. This is working so well I thought I would pass on the information for others to talk to their own doctors if they are dealing with the same problems of Type II Diabetes. Like any drug, it is not for everyone but for some it could change your life. One day at a time Muddy_Man.

Hmmm, I don't use a rattle and his article does not address it. That is good question so I will experiment and see. I suppose you could use glue, or wrap rattles inside a small piece of cloth that you could then pass the hook through as you pass it through the nose of the tube are in the case of the rattle below hang the rattle on the belly of the hook as you pass it through the tube. The picture shown almost looks like the covering of an ammonia ampoule like you wave under someone's nose to snap them awake if they fainted. I suppose you could substitute a small glass rattle of equal size for the ammonia ampoule and have a readymade cover. I know Bass pro sells this rattle that says it stays put inside the tume but it does not exact state how it is expected to do so. "Steel shot inside a specially designed aluminum chamber create a loud rattle to call fish in from a distance. Uniquely shaped to fit easily inside tube bait and stay in position, cast after cast."

When it comes to your life and your liberty, one should listen and learn from the best especially those that have been there and done that. My dad was a First Sgt. in the Army and while I was a lowly "gold brick" I learned from my father who to look to that could keep me alive. My Platoon Sgt. used to say about me, I was the first 2Lt. with brains he had ever met (my father raised me right). ;D

Guys and gals here on the forum as any law enforcement officer or lawyer on this forum can tell you criminal court and law is one matter however civil court and civil law is a whole different ball game. Even if you are not held criminally guilty of committing a crime, a civil court can still ruin your life. That is why unless you are truly in fear of being killed never ever take another's life because a courtroom will be a very unfriendly place with people trying to trip you up with any word or action they view as inconsistent seized upon. Even law enforcement officers are taught after a shooing to ask for legal representation so that they have time to calm down and rationally make a coherent official statement with legal advise. In today's world, a misspoken word (even though you know what you meant by it) can have major legal repercussions. Making statements in the heat of the moment has in fact ruined man good peoples lives. Stay within the law when it come to self defense and never embellish or lie about any facts of the case because when found out they will make you look guilt even when you are not. Also never, move or tamper with the evidence (like putting a knife or gun in their hand or moving the body) for the same reasons. Let the facts prove you innocent if in fact you are. Anyone who even thinks they may need to use deadly force needs to read all the books by Massad Ayoob they can like: 1. Armed Response: A Comprehensive Guide to Using Firearms for Self-Defense 2. In the Gravest Extreme Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection 3. The Truth About Self Protection Massad Ayoob is presently Director of Lethal Force Institute, training 800 to 1,200 personnel per year in judicious use of deadly force, armed and unarmed combat, threat management for police, and advanced officer survival, coordinating a dozen LFI staff instructors and assistant instructors in four countries. He appears selectively as a court accepted expert witness in the areas of dynamics of violent encounters weapons and weapons/self defense/police training, and survival and threat management tactics and principles. Teaching Experience: International Director of Police Firearms Training, Defensive Tactics Institute, 1980-82 Special Instructor, Chapman Academy, 1981-88 Assistant Professor teaching weapons and Chemical Agents, Advanced Police Training Program of New Hampshire 1974-77 Special Instructor, NH Institute of Karate Feature lecturer, Missouri Police Shooting State Championships and Seminar, 1983-88 International Instructor Staff, PR-24 police baton training program National Chairman, committee on police firearms training, American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers (ASLET), 1987-present Co-instructor (with former world combat pistol champion Ray Chapman) of Advanced Officer Survival Seminars conducted nationwide through Police Marksman Association Lecturer and coordinator, first state ASLET seminar (New Hampshire, 1988) Ethicist Experience: Senior Research Associate, Center for Advancement of Applied Ethics, Carnegie-Mellon University, 1990 to present. Member of Ethics Committee, ASLET, 1994 to 1998. Combat Shooting Qualifications and Awards: Four Gun Master, International Dfensive Pistol Assn. Combat Master, NRA Police Revolver Master, Revolver, National Marksman Sports Society Master, Automatic, National Marksman Sports Society Class A, International Practical Shooting Confederation Grand Mastershot, UKPSA Master Blaster, Second Chance Expert, NRA Action Shooting Honorary Distinguished Expert, Federal Law Enforcement Training Center New Hampshire State Champion, police combat shooting, 1973, 1989 Overall top shooter, NH Police Association annual match, 1988 Co-holder (w/Cpl. Robert Houzenga) 2-man State Champion Team, Professional Class, Missouri Police State Championships, 1988 New England Regional combat shooting champion, 3-gun, 1981 Top shooter, NH Police Officers Association annual combat match, 1988-89 2nd overall (1st Master), Fraternal Order of Police National Championship, 1977 Has twice placed in top 5, several times in top 20 at Second Chance National Police Combat Shoot Has place in top 20 at Bianchi Cup Invitational Professional Handgun Tournament, one of only three people in the world to have completed in all ten Bianchi Cups 1979-88 Only officer of 600 to be judged to have survived unsurvivable Duelatron computerized ambush course, Ohio State Peace Officer Training Academy, 1980 Winner, New England Duelatron Championships, 1980 Co-Winner, National Duelatron Shoot, Michigan, 1980 4th Place, National Duelatron Shoot, Michigan, 1979 Won two gold and two silver medals in combat shooting, Bisley, England, 1979 (850 competitors representing 15 nations) Has held three national records in combat pistol shooting Winner, Montreal Professional Charity Pistol Match, 1986 Holds record for highest score to win New Hampshire Police Association service revolver event (5/88) Has competed in all six National Tactical Invitationals to date, finishing Top 3 in three. Has won numerous individual/local combat shooting tournaments, has competed successfully in five countries. Current NH State Champion, Stock Service Revolver (IDPA) Current NH State Champion, Senior Class (IDPA) National Champion, senior class, 1999 (Mid-Winter Nationals) National Champion Parent/Child Handgun Team (w/daughter Justine Ayoob, then 13 year old, sub-junior class), 1998, National Junior Handgun Championships.

Here is an alternative for rigging tubes with those with experiencing tendonitis in my elbow or with shoulder problems. Circle Hook Tube Rig by Jeff "Yakfish" Little I had heard of people using circle hooks with soft plastics a few years ago, but never saw a need to use them. I figured that the smaller fish would grab the tail of the nose hooked bait, pull it off, and I would have to rebait the hook. I also liked the feeling of my rod meeting resistance upon hookset. After experiencing tendonitis in my elbow, I was looking for an alternative. I remembered Kevin Hoover talking about the no hook set technique used with circle hooks and I figured that I should try them out. The directions for rigging a tube on a circle hook are below. By inserting a weight, the tube is less likely to be pulled off of the hook by a fish that can not fully inhale the rig. During my first on the water tinkering with the rig, I used a bass casting weight. The rounded bottom seemed to snag between rocks, so I decided that I needed a more cylindrical weight. The walleye weight was a more elongated weight and it did not seem to snag in the rocks as often. Overall, either rig seems to snag slightly less than an internally rigged jighead. Once you have rigged a few and are ready to give them a try, you will need to remember not to set the hook. It is a hard habit to break for some die hard jig fishermen. It's a reflex instead of a decision to set the hook. Setting a circle hook will just leave a confused fish behind wondering what happened to lunch. When you feel a fish hit, point the rod at the fish and reel steadily at a medium speed. I had less luck when reeling steadily with the rod tip up. The rod absorbed some of the pressure and gave the fish a chance to spit it out. I have not been using the circle hook tube rig very long, but I already see a few advantages. The hook always ends up at the jaw. This almost erases the chances of gut hooking fish. The technique is easy, so teaching it to new anglers is less frustrating than teaching how and when to set a standard hook. I will use standard jigheads again once my elbow heals, but I will always carry circle hooks for days when the bite is soft or when they are eating the tube right away and getting gut hooked. Hooksets are free, but circle hook checks cost even less. Another way to do this for those who use tubes with a solid nose section is to use a Hitchiker on the circle hook to attach the tube.

Circle Hook Tube Rig by Jeff "Yakfish" Little I had heard of people using circle hooks with soft plastics a few years ago, but never saw a need to use them. I figured that the smaller fish would grab the tail of the nose hooked bait, pull it off, and I would have to rebait the hook. I also liked the feeling of my rod meeting resistance upon hookset. After experiencing tendonitis in my elbow, I was looking for an alternative. I remembered Kevin Hoover talking about the no hook set technique used with circle hooks and I figured that I should try them out. The directions for rigging a tube on a circle hook are below. By inserting a weight, the tube is less likely to be pulled off of the hook by a fish that can not fully inhale the rig. During my first on the water tinkering with the rig, I used a bass casting weight. The rounded bottom seemed to snag between rocks, so I decided that I needed a more cylindrical weight. The walleye weight was a more elongated weight and it did not seem to snag in the rocks as often. Overall, either rig seems to snag slightly less than an internally rigged jighead. Once you have rigged a few and are ready to give them a try, you will need to remember not to set the hook. It is a hard habit to break for some die hard jig fishermen. It's a reflex instead of a decision to set the hook. Setting a circle hook will just leave a confused fish behind wondering what happened to lunch. When you feel a fish hit, point the rod at the fish and reel steadily at a medium speed. I had less luck when reeling steadily with the rod tip up. The rod absorbed some of the pressure and gave the fish a chance to spit it out. I have not been using the circle hook tube rig very long, but I already see a few advantages. The hook always ends up at the jaw. This almost erases the chances of gut hooking fish. The technique is easy, so teaching it to new anglers is less frustrating than teaching how and when to set a standard hook. I will use standard jigheads again once my elbow heals, but I will always carry circle hooks for days when the bite is soft or when they are eating the tube right away and getting gut hooked. Hooksets are free, but circle hook checks cost even less.

[quote author=the_Conceited_ReDnEcK link=1179283279/0#10 date=1179361010 Now this is were it gets tricky IF you carry out in the open im thinking what exact law are you breaking if you have not broken a law i think this is a big debate nationwide .When they read you your Miranda rights they say anything you say can and will be held against you in the court of law .If all you say is I have the right to keep and bear arms LMAO WTH can they actually get you for if they are reading your rights from the same bill of rights ????? I know this gets deeper and such with GOV imposing so many details and loopholes .But i would think you can counter them with the bill of rights

You Heard Wrong! Do an internet search before presenting false information. I lived there for 15 years until recently and still have many relatives there. Look up the "After Dark Law" that allows Texans to use up to deadly force to prevent crimes from being commited against them. For instance if you catch pople breaking into your house, car, boat, etc. after dark and you try to stop them, are in fear of your life you can use deadly force to stop the crime in progress. Personally I carried a short 12 gauge with buckshot but then I had a brother-in-law on the Houston PD, a second cousin in the Texas Rangers, and my wife (now ex-wife) was a sheriff's deputy. Now, if you want some people to worry about, in some western states like Wyoming it is legal to carry a gun anytime as long as it is not concealed without a permit but in Alaska residents do not need a permit to carry concealed.

Everything path we choose is walked one step at a time. Congratulations Muddy!

http://www.ozarkmtns.com/fishing/dir.htm http://www.bullshoals.com/index.asp http://www.ozarkvacations.com/maps.htm http://www.norfork.com/index.asp The former all-tackle World Record Brown, still the Arkansas state record at 38.9 pounds. It too was taken on the North Fork River. 5 to 7 pound Rainbow are fairly common in the catch & release areas. The current state record Rainbow is a 19 pounder caught in the White River. They are mostly in Norfork lake but this one was caught in Bull Shoals. Line-Class & Other Records 1. Smallmouth Bass - 7 pounds 4 oz. -state record caught on Bull Shoals Lake 2. Spotted Bass - 7 pounds 15 oz - state record caught on Bull Shoals Lake 3. White Bass - 5 pounds, 5 oz. - state record caught on Bull Shoals Lake 4. Cutthroat Trout - 9 pounds 9oz. - state record caught on White River 5. Ozark Bass - 1 pound 4 oz. - state record caught on North Fork River 6. Black Crappie Line-Class World Records: 8# test: 1 pound 1 oz. - Bull Shoals 10# test 1 pound 11 oz. -Bull Shoals 12# test 1 pound 11 oz. - Bull Shoals 14# test 1 pound 13 oz. Bull Shoals 7. Striped Bass - 50 pounds on 6# test - World Line-Class Record - Bull Shoals 8. Blue Catfish - 68 pounds on 8# test - World Line-Class Record -Bull Shoals 9. Walleye - 19 pounds 13 oz. on 4# test - World Line-Class Record - Bull Shoals 10. Catch & Release Line-Class World Record Browns - White River 34 inches World Record All-Tackle 23 inches on 2# test 32 inches on 4# test 32 inches on 6# test 34 inches on 8# test 33 inches on 10# test 11. Cutthroat - Catch & Release World Record - 20 inches on 2# test - North Fork River The Mountain Home / Twin Lakes Area has the following fishing waters in the area. Lakes Norfork Lake Bull Shoals Lake Streams Myatt Creek Crooked Creek Piney Creek Dry Run Creek Rivers White River Buffalo River North Fork River Spring River South Fork of the Spring Bull Shoals Lake and the White River Bull Shoals Lake, and the White River below its dam, are synonymous with fishing in Arkansas. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers project, located in north central Arkansas on the Missouri-Arkansas state line, enjoys a wide reputation for lunker bass fishing along with its twin, Lake Norfork, just to the east. Bull Shoals Dam was completed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in 1951. It is the fifth largest concrete dam in the United States. Including the portion located in Missouri, the lake totals some 45,500 surface acres. Almost 1,000 miles of rugged shoreline is open to visitors and 60,000 acres of public land provide a variety of opportunities. Fishing: Scrappy largemouth bass, spotted bass and white bass abound in the lake, along with crappie, channel cat, bream and walleye. Largemouth bass fishing is a popular sport on Bull Shoals Lake. Bass weighing up to 12 pounds are caught here. The year-round fishing is enhanced in the early spring by the walleye and white bass run in the upper reaches of the lake and the growing popularity of night fishing for trout, white bass and crappie in the summer. Black bass fishing is at its best between September and May. Below the dam, the frigid waters of the White River have gained a national following of trout fishermen, who flock to try their hand at hooking rainbow, brown and cutthroat trout. Resorts and trout docks offering guide services line the banks of the White below the dam. A large federal fish hatchery nearby assures a continuous stocking of the river. Bridges spanning Lake Norfork allow travelers on Highway 101 and Highway 412/62 to see a magnificent view of Lake Norfork. Norfork Lake and the North Fork River are supreme year-around fisheries and outdoor recreation destinations. While tens of thousands of people vacation and fish here every year, the vastness of the area allows uncrowded action. The water, air, and lands are clean, and the crime level is one of the lowest in America. This part of the Ozark Mountains has a mild winter having many days warm enough for "shirt sleeve" activity. Spring and fall weather is some of the most beautiful of the year. I live in Lakeview, a small community right on the shore line near the dam on Lake Bull Shoals. Below is a picture of my boat if you come to the area and see me out on Bull Shoals.

While I am not advocating this nor have I done the following, though I have been seriously tempted at times. I have seen other fishermen and even one fishing guide use well placed casts to get their point across that running your boat were others are casting is potentially dangerous. Personally, I think the confrontation that can result is of highly questionable value. I do wonder if the object lesson ever sinks in to a person that is of such obviously dense character (no pun intended). Seriously, I would take down the boat identification on the perps boat and report them to the appropriate law enforcement agency that is charge of boat safety. Video does wonders in prosecuting such dim bulbs so it would do more than a confrontation to get the message across. Therefore, if you have a video camera for preserving those golden moments of catching the BIG ONE, it can serve double duty for catching the "dumb ones" also. Sometimes a hefty fine from law enforcement does wonders to educate!

That is only part of the answer after you elect them you still have to get them of their dead rears to take actual action to do something about the problem and not just talk about it for the next 30 years as they have been doing.

Ultimate retirement vehicle. Live where you fish and fish where you live. Cuts down on the gas too.