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* Which lake, and which river, has the biggest fish? Tough question! While the records all seem to point to Bull Shoals Lake, Norfork Lake fish are usually just ounces behind. Unofficial Striped bass caught in Norfork are generally larger than the Bull Shoals stripers. When discussing river trophies, its also a tough call. Both the North Fork River and the White River have produced lots of records. Either lake, or either river, offer an excellent chance at new records. The former all-tackle World Record Brown, still the Arkansas state record at 38.9 pounds. It too was taken on the North Fork River. It was beaten out by another Arkansas Brown weighing 40.4 pounds taken in the Little Red River. Another view of the current State Record Brown. This Brown is still the second largest ever recorded, world-wide. Here's the current State Record All-Tackle Brook Trout. It was caught in the North Fork River and weighs 3 pounds 10 ounces. John Stark was on hand to make it official. 5 to 7 pound Rainbow are fairly common in the catch & release areas. The current state record Rainbow is a 19 pounder caught in the White River. This 53 pound Striped bass taken in Bull Shoals Lake was a State Record for several years. Current state record Hybrid bass, 22 pounds, 13 oz, caught on Bull Shoals Lake. Line-Class & Other Records 1. Smallmouth Bass - 7 pounds 4 oz. -state record caught on Bull Shoals Lake 2. Spotted Bass - 7 pounds 15 oz - state record caught on Bull Shoals Lake 3. White Bass - 5 pounds, 5 oz. - state record caught on Bull Shoals Lake 4. Cutthroat Trout - 9 pounds 9oz. - state record caught on White River 5. Ozark Bass - 1 pound 4 oz. - state record caught on North Fork River 6. Black Crappie Line-Class World Records: 8# test: 1 pound 1 oz. - Bull Shoals 10# test 1 pound 11 oz. -Bull Shoals 12# test 1 pound 11 oz. - Bull Shoals 14# test 1 pound 13 oz. Bull Shoals 7. Striped Bass - 50 pounds on 6# test - World Line-Class Record - Bull Shoals 8. Blue Catfish - 68 pounds on 8# test - World Line-Class Record -Bull Shoals 9. Walleye - 19 pounds 13 oz. on 4# test - World Line-Class Record - Bull Shoals 10. Catch & Release Line-Class World Record Browns - White River 34 inches World Record All-Tackle 23 inches on 2# test 32 inches on 4# test 32 inches on 6# test 34 inches on 8# test 33 inches on 10# test 11. Cutthroat - Catch & Release World Record - 20 inches on 2# test - North Fork River Come on down the fisin is fine and you can stay on the house boat.

Since, I've joined here I told you guys this, but now it is put out from none other than the Februrary issue of "Field and Stream" magazine that Mountain Home, Arkansas is the second best fishing town with a population under 100,000 in America. http://www.enjoymountainhome.com/ I wanted to link to the article but the January isuue is still up on the "Field and Stream" site with the best fishing cities over 100,000. Who was #1 you ask? Oh, that was Glenwood Springs, Colorado. This was just too good to pass up guys!

I am very glad to hear Chelsea has been doing good for so long! Your family and she will remain in my thoughts and prayers.

I plan to see it as I remember the movie "The Omega Man", a 1971 science fiction thriller starring Charlton Heston. The movie is based on Richard Matheson's 1954 novel, I Am Legend. The screenplay was written by John William and Joyce Corrington, and the movie was directed by Boris Sagal. It was filmed in Technicolor with mono sound and ran for 98 minutes. The movie received a MPAA rating of PG in the U.S. The story was first filmed in 1964, under the title The Last Man on Earth, with Vincent Price in the lead role. It is based as is the third adaptation of the story, I Am Legend, starring Will Smith, on the same Richard Matheson's 1954 novel.

I'm a voracious reader of non-fiction and I usually read several books a month year round. My last reads were Exodus Cry by Jim W Goll, and Why I left Jihad by Walid Shoebat. My subjects I center mostly on are Terrorism, the Middle East, religion ( Christianity and Islam),fishing and fishing techniques, weapons and their use, but not necessarily in that order. I also read many articles published on the internet by authors on the subject of terrorism as I filter them and re-post them on the forum where I am a forum moderator and the subject is a prime subject of discussion.

Welcome to the real world where some of us have lived most of our lives. It kind of reminds some of the "Matrix" when some finally get it.

We are in Afghanistan and have been since before Iraq. Our nation today is not number with the same type people as it was after Pearl Harbor. Such should have nothing to do with politics. It should have to do with the character and understanding of the people. We face not an organize army that fights according to the Geneva convention nor is even willing to sign it but acts more as organized murderers. Some say they worry about how our soldiers may be treated. Really? Now these types have tortured our people by cutting of their heads on videos, dismembering our soldiers to be found by their comrades, targeting unarmed women and children by rape, bombs, assassination , and ripping their bodies apart as examples to others, as reprisals, or just to try to foment a war between rival factions of their fellow Muslims. All this and still some think pouring a little water up only three of the worse mass murderers noses is torture which by the way many of our men experience as part of their training to resist such interrogation. That saved thousands of lives according to those involved in the events because of all the information the three top terrorists have revealed. However you know as well as I do that the terrorists have been murdering, mutilating, beheading, and Truly Torturing our soldiers and civilians anytime they wish with the full knowledge of and impunity from being held responsible by the governments were they are operating. So what will water boarding the top terrorists to save lives change? This is not politics this is rational thinking. You can choose to side with the terrorists such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed but once he started talking he never stopped was never water-boarded again, and in hours and hours of conversation with his interrogators, often over a cup of tea, he poured out his soul and the murderous deeds he committed. "He was sitting across the table from his interrogator, and he just blurted out, 'I killed Daniel Pearl. I killed him Hahal .' There was no water-boarding, no belly slapping; just two guys sitting across the table having a cup of tea."

Here is a copy of the reply I received from the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission on the Arkansas 5 year old taking the Black Bear we have been discussing. The bear apparently has been legally killed in open season by legal method and the youngster appears to have been properly supervised by a family member as required by AGFC Code 3:05. From my perspective, if they are taught from a young age to hunt properly and to understand the activity of sport hunting is a benefit to wildlife management, this understanding could be of help to our young hunter recruitment in Arkansas. We as an agency promote this activity through our many designated special youth hunt seasons. Arkansas Game and Fish Commission Enforcement Officers participate in several large scale youth hunts across the state every year to promote youth involvement in the sport of hunting. Colonel Chris Carpenter Arkansas Game and Fish Commission Here is a copy of our OFFICIAL CODE concerning AGE REQUIREMENTS. 04-07 03.05 HUNTER EDUCATION CERTIFICATE REQUIREMENTS. It shall be unlawful for any person with a birth date later than December 31, 1968, to hunt, take, or attempt to take wildlife by use of a killing device prior to successful completion of an approved Hunter Education training course, or fail to have on the person valid proof of Hunter Education certification. EXCEPTION: (1) Persons under 16 years of age hunting under direct supervision of an adult at least 21 years of age. (2) Persons possessing a current valid hunting license/permit displaying the dealer imprinted code DHE (Ref: 01.00C, Deferred Hunter Education). Requirements for a person to be eligible to hunt with DHE coded licenses/permits are as follows: [ch9679] Be at least 16 years of age and born after December 31, 1968 and not hunter education certified. [ch9679] Be in the immediate presence of an adult hunter who is at least 21 years of age and possesses valid hunter education certification, or who was born on or before December 31, 1968. [ch9679] Can only acquire a DHE validated hunting license/permit once in a lifetime. [ch9679] Not eligible if convicted/forfeited bond for prior violation of Commission Regulation 03.05, Hunter Education Certification Requirements or under Commission sanctioned hunting privilege revocations. PENALTY: $50.00 to $250.00. BAITING BEAR (page 49 of the hunting guidebook) http://www.agfc.com/!userfiles/pdfs/guidebooks/07-08Sections/34-59_2007-08_Wildlife_Regulations.pdf Bait, foodstuffs or the use of any kind of lure to attract bears is not allowed except on private lands in zones 1 and 2 from Sept. 1 until Nov. 30, in zone 5 from Nov. 8 until Dec. 16 and zone 5A from Nov. 1 until Dec. 16. Bears may be hunted over bait where baiting is legal. Baiting ends when either the quota is reached in zones 5 and 5A or the season ends. Kim Cartwright Information Officer Arkansas Game and Fish Commission

I noted fishbear that you took the time to read the complete articles. Like you, I wouldn't do the same but then if it is legal and under proper supervision to each his own.

Study: Part of Global-Warming Model May Be Wrong Part of the scientific consensus on global warming may be flawed, a new study asserts. The researchers compared predictions of 22 widely used climate "models" elaborate schematics that try to forecast how the global weather system will behave with actual readings gathered by surface stations, weather balloons and orbiting satellites over the past three decades. The study, published online this week in the International Journal of Climatology, found that while most of the models predicted that the middle and upper parts of the troposphere 1 to 6 miles above the Earth's surface would have warmed drastically over the past 30 years, actual observations showed only a little warming, especially over tropical regions. "Can the models accurately explain the climate from the recent past? It seems that the answer is no," said lead study author David H. Douglass, a physicist specializing in climate at the University of Rochester. Douglass and his co-authors S. Fred Singer, a physicist at the University of Virginia, and John R. Christy, a climatologist at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, are noted global-warming skeptics. However, Christy was a major contributor to the 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and is one of the world's premier authorities on collection and analysis of satellite-derived temperature data, having been commended by both NASA and the American Meteorological Society for his efforts. "We do not see accelerated warming in the tropical troposphere," said Christy. "Instead, the lower and middle atmosphere are warming the same or less than the surface." The difference between the climate models and the satellite data has been known for several years. Studies in 2005 found that improper compensation for temperature differences between day and night was the cause of most of the satellite-data discrepancy, a correction that Christy has accepted. No explanation has been put forth for the weather-balloon discrepancy. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071211101623.htm New Study Increases Concerns About Climate Model Reliability ScienceDaily (Dec. 12, 2007) A new study comparing the composite output of 22 leading global climate models with actual climate data finds that the models do an unsatisfactory job of mimicking climate change in key portions of the atmosphere. This research, published online in the Royal Meteorological Society's International Journal of Climatology, raises new concerns about the reliability of models used to forecast global warming. "The usual discussion is whether the climate model forecasts of Earth's climate 100 years or so into the future are realistic," said the lead author, Dr. David H. Douglass from the University of Rochester. "Here we have something more fundamental: Can the models accurately explain the climate from the recent past? "It seems that the answer is no." Scientists from Rochester, the University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH) and the University of Virginia compared the climate change "forecasts" from the 22 most widely-cited global circulation models with tropical temperature data collected by surface, satellite and balloon sensors. The models predicted that the lower atmosphere should warm significantly more than it actually did. "Models are very consistent in forecasting a significant difference between climate trends at the surface and in the troposphere, the layer of atmosphere between the surface and the stratosphere," said Dr. John Christy, director of UAH's Earth System Science Center. "The models forecast that the troposphere should be warming more than the surface and that this trend should be especially pronounced in the tropics. "When we look at actual climate data, however, we do not see accelerated warming in the tropical troposphere. Instead, the lower and middle atmosphere are warming the same or less than the surface. For those layers of the atmosphere, the warming trend we see in the tropics is typically less than half of what the models forecast." The 22 climate models used in this study are the same models used by the UN Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change (IPCC), which recently shared a Nobel Peace Prize with former Vice President Al Gore. The atmospheric temperature data were from two versions of data collected by sensors aboard NOAA satellites since late 1979, plus several sets of temperature data gathered twice a day at dozens of points in the tropics by thermometers carried into the atmosphere by helium balloons. The surface data were from three datasets. After years of rigorous analysis and testing, the high degree of agreement between the various atmospheric data sets gives an equally high level of confidence in the basic accuracy of the climate data. "The last 25 years constitute a period of more complete and accurate observations, and more realistic modeling efforts," said Dr. Fred Singer from the University of Virginia. "Nonetheless, the models are seen to disagree with the observations. We suggest, therefore, that projections of future climate based on these models should be viewed with much caution." The findings of this study contrast strongly with those of a recent study that used 19 of the same climate models and similar climate datasets. That study concluded that any difference between model forecasts and atmospheric climate data is probably due to errors in the data. "The question was, what would the models 'forecast' for upper air climate change over the past 25 years and how would that forecast compare to reality?" said Christy. "To answer that we needed climate model results that matched the actual surface temperature changes during that same time. If the models got the surface trend right but the tropospheric trend wrong, then we could pinpoint a potential problem in the models. "As it turned out, the average of all of the climate models forecasts came out almost like the actual surface trend in the tropics. That meant we could do a very robust test of their reproduction of the lower atmosphere. "Instead of averaging the model forecasts to get a result whose surface trends match reality, the earlier study looked at the widely scattered range of results from all of the model runs combined. Many of the models had surface trends that were quite different from the actual trend," Christy said. "Nonetheless, that study concluded that since both the surface and upper atmosphere trends were somewhere in that broad range of model results, any disagreement between the climate data and the models was probably due to faulty data. "We think our experiment is more robust and provides more meaningful results." Adapted from materials provided by Wiley-Blackwell.

More information on Arkansas boy that killed 445-pound black bear. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/news/story?id=3150157&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines View Video A 5 year-old boy shot and killed a 440 pound Black Bear while hunting with his grandfather in Arkansas County, Arkansas. When Tre's father was asked how he felt bout his son killing the bear, he said tears rolled down his cheeks. He went on to say Davy Crockett supposedly killed him a bear when he was three and Tre is five. But he really killed a bear. I really doubt Davy killed one when he was three, so it's just absolutely amazing. The boy's father says, just last year Tre killed three deer, and next he wants to kill a Turkey and an Elk. Wheatley Merritt said the family plans to get a life-sized mount of the bear, but where they will put it has yet to be determined.

Rather than reply and possibly be mistaken, I emailed the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission and asked for a complete clarification and will post what they reply as to how the kill falls within Arkansas game regulations. Hey, I have known some adults I never felt comfortable to be around when they were handling a gun and some were required to do such a thing as a condition of their employment.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316443,00.html While most kindergartners are thrilled by an action-packed afternoon of finger-painting and clay sculpture, an Arkansas 5-year-old is shooting for something a little more dangerous. Tre Merrit was in a stand with his grandfather when a black bear came from a thicket at the side of the road, Arkansas news station KATV reported. From about 50 yards away, Tre shot the bear with his youth rifle. Click here for the KATV report and to view video. http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1207/479365.html The boy's grandfather, Mike Merrit, told KATV that Tre's 10th great-grandfather was Davy Crocket, a legendary outdoorsman who killed a bear at just 3 years old, according to folklore. Mike Merrit taught his grandson how to shoot when the boy was 2 years old and bragged to KATV that he already had killed three deer. The family plans to get a life-sized mount of the bear but is not sure where they will put it, KATV reported.

In the 9th grade I was 6' 2", the first day of school 10th grade I walked thru the door at 6' 5" and now at 57 years old with my birthday the 23rd of this month I tip the scares at a danty 300 pounds. My coaches in football, basketball, track and field, as well as baseball always loved me!

Thanks, everyone! She is really depressed, in pain, and has all but given up on living. I am trying with all I have to help her see there is Hope!

Fellow Broken Fin Fishing Fools members, your prayers for my youngest daughter are needed. She called last night to inform me she had been released from the hospital out in Colorado after surgical removal of a grapefruit sized cancerous tumor and that she has stage three renal cell carcinoma. :'(Over the years I have tried to be a part of her life as much as she would allow me however after her mother and I divorced we have been largely estranged. She is sick, in severe pain, scared of dying from cancer, a divorced single mother of three boys in desperate need that is reaching out. I will do all I can. I humbly ask for your prayers for my little girl. Thanks.

Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, and I pray God puts a hedge round about all our soldiers during this season as a protection for them and may they all find peace and joy.

I will say it is a very large dolphin. When I fished offshore in the Gulf of Mexico I was amazed at the size of the dolphins I often saw. My reason for saying dolphin is a combination of body shape, dorsal fin shape but at least 90% due to the tail formation. The tail of a dolphin moves up and down for propulsion and is at a right angle to the dorsal fin on a dolphin while on a shark the tail is in line strait up and down as to propel the shark with a side to side motion. If the tail on the animal in question was a shark it would be at a right angle to the lens of the camera and be much clearer as the dorsal fin is. The tail is so blurred due the flat up and down nature of a dolphin's tail structure placing the tail at a sharp angle from the lens of the camera therefore blurring the image more. From the years I spent offshore fishing and watching dolphin I have to go large dolphin. I preferred to eat the sharks I caught especially the Black Tip sharks but I always wanted to catch a Mako shark. Some sharks are not good eating, to small, too big to handle safely, so those sharks l released. Anyway, that's my two cents. All dolphins are toothed whales belonging to the sub-order, odontocetes, of the order cetacea. As a group, dolphins are often referred to as "small" cetaceans, even though some of them are quite large, attaining lengths of over 20 feet. In addition, although the terms dolphins and porpoises are often used interchangeably, they really refer to two different types of animals. Porpoises belong to the family Phocoenidae. They are generally smaller and more robust species. Most attain about 5-7 feet in length. Porpoises have no distinct beak, or rostrum. Their foreheads slope almost uniformly to the tip of their snout, and their teeth are spade-like in shape. The family Phocoenidae is rather small, and consists of only six members. Dolphins belong to the family Delphinidae. Dolphins possess a distinct beak. Their teeth are conical in shape. Most species of dolphins are larger than porpoises, with the males usually being larger than the females. The family Delphinidae is the largest and most diverse family of the cetacean order and includes 26 living species.

You got them John! Prayers on the way.

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Thanks LBH for the nice comment about the pic, I got that pick from an Israeli girl that works as a nurse in treating the worse injured you could think of. We all deal with that situation at times but we need to be as confident and as fearless as that cat in those times. That cat knows who is in control of the situation to the point it is willing to bet its life on who has that control. I wish everyone a HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!! Don't Eat to Much

?????? How did the US attack its own country??????

Your observations about the Civil War are quite true Avid. The level of arms in the hands of the citizenry of the United States should give pause to any military or police force if ordered to disarm said citizens against their will both in the past and the present. The argument often centers about terms like assault rifle versus semi-auto rifle and such but any soldier with any training knows what the most effective weapon against a crew served weapon system is. There are millions of prior service men and women not to mention strict constitutionalists that will always be unwilling to give up their ability to resist ternary. Some in this country seem to think they can remove the ability of such people to resist the will of the elite through legislation, intimidation, or judicial edict. I believe that to be a fatally flawed concept. Those schooled in Counter-Insurgency operations know the effectiveness of both Insurgent operations and the countermeasures used against them. Even during the Civil War organized raider units like John Moseby's Raiders that operated using hit and run operations were effective all out of proportion to their size. John Moseby was a key innovator in the tactics of Guerilla warfare. Our nation, I hope never witnesses the need to see firsthand again such men again rally to the aid of their friends, neighbors, and state against fellow Americans but if the need arise may it be against a common foreign enemy.

I think your missing the point Papa. The constitution guarantees the right of the people to bear arms, as well as all the other rights spelled out in the Bill of Rights, specifically to prevent the government from abusing it's power. An armed citizenry can resist oppressive force with force. Force or armed conflict is exactly what the amendment intends. Should government stop being "of" the people, the people not only have the right to resist, but thanks to our forefathers they have the means to resist. The right to bear arms clause of the constitution was, and remains the most empowering documented right any country has ever granted it's citizens. No, I understand the point all too well Avid. That is why I said "I hope the interpretation of the Second Amendment never becomes a national crisis" because it will cause another civil war where neighbor will be fighting neighbor, brother fighting brother and so forth. A simple ruling by the Supreme Court will not settle the matter due to the depth of feeling over the issue. Remember, the US Supreme Court once ruled slavery legal in the United States and later reversed its decision. The Second Amendment is an issue that could split the nation against itself. We have enough enemies from outside our nation today that want to destroy our way of life that we the people do not need to divide ourselves over this issue that we have lived with in unison since the founding of our nation. What I was saying is if there are those that wish to make the issue of a national crisis nature I say this is not a good time. However, if it becomes such, so be it. I view the current argument (why Japan did not invade the US mainland) similar in benefit to those who argued about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. It will not change history but it will make enemies when feelings get bruised. As to the Second Amendment, that is a different story because that argument I fear could lead to men spilling each others' blood so it must be taken in all seriousness. Since, there are those in our nation (including elected officials) that do seek to disarm all citizens, I do hope they do not seek to enforce their will upon the people by force for that force will be met by force. I remember the words a house divided cannot stand but then I am only one voice.

Muddy, you are not wasting your time. You have a point of view and it is a valid one. Others do not have to agree with you for it to be valid. I am often the only one holding a particular viewpoint. Muddy even if everyone else is against your viewpoint, if you believe in your view then its valid to you. It is differences in views that make life interesting, otherwise life would be very boring. While, I may disagree with a view you may state does not mean I do not respect your right to have it and state it. We need to respect each others' views even in disagreement. Please remember you are never wasting your time as far as I am concerned for while we are on opposite ends of the political spectrum two reasonable men can always agree to simply disagree while respecting each other's right to hold their opinions. Without heat one cannot appreciate cold and without cold one cannot moderate heat. In all things, moderation is often the best thing as often too much of one or the other is imbalance.