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Which one would you recommend for a weedy lake? I know he makes the weedless mission fish, but does it go through weeds easily?

 

How I fish it, yes.  As I said, lube it with Megastrike and that will help keep weeds from sticking.

 

It's really no different than fishing a pegged T-rig worm. Same principle, different profile.

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  • Bluebasser86
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    It's a good theory and it does play out at times but not always.

  • Grizzn N Bassin
    Grizzn N Bassin

    IF you can get my some 6 footers im in need.. I ran out of my 5's looking for something a little bigger

  • J33wolf, no disrespect meant but the "bigger the bait the bigger the bass" sounds good in thoery but it is simply that...a thoery. Given the choice of a 4" shad 10 feet away and a 8" shad 20 yards aw

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GoneFish'n you would be surprised what I know about swim baits. I have some orginal prototypes from MattLures and Huddleson. I was throwing swim baits in Texas and Louisiana before anyone.

Of the 30+ double diget bass I've caught none were on swim baits only because I was not throwing them not because I didn't think they would catch.

  • Super User

SPEED the one I have have a huge EWG with them.

GoneFish'n you would be surprised what I know about swim baits. I have some orginal prototypes from MattLures and Huddleson. I was throwing swim baits in Texas and Louisiana before anyone.

Of the 30+ double diget bass I've caught none were on swim baits only because I was not throwing them not because I didn't think they would catch.

You have some special stuff there. Sorry for being rude it just seemed the way you were talking you didn't know much about them.
  • Super User

Yeah, they have to be the bigger hooks to clear all that plastic.

 

Most times when you rig a MF, the bend of the hook will be right in line with the belly. The bait is split but you still want as much gap in there as possible. While it "should" slide up the line, that's not always the case.

 

When you rig it, before skin hooking the bait, take your pliers and bend the hook point left or right some. Just enough that when you skin hook it the point is still covered by the plastic on the top ridge of the bait.

  • Super User

IF you can get my some 6 footers im in need.. I ran out of my 5's looking for something a little bigger

You're lucky you can find 5's, we're lucky if we can find them in the 4.5s.  Of course 6s maybe overkill for the Northern Strain. 

  • Super User

Dang can't find em, mind is blank ;)

  • Super User

If a big fish is hungry it's gonna eat something either big or small. If a small fish is hungry enough it will go after something big or small.

If its hungry it will eat

Funny people throwing out oh I caught a big bass on a 4" bait and I caught a small bass on a 8" bait do you know why that is? Because the fish was hungry and your lure was the closest thing to eat

I too am a firm believer in this. I caught my PB on a 12 in power worm.

  • Super User

bigger baits dont necessarily mean bigger fish....you can catch giants on tiny baits and small fish on giant baits and here is 2 examples of personal experience

 

caught a 43lb snook on a 1 inch square chunk of bait and also caught a 15 inch sea trout on a 14 inch live mullet lol 

In fairness where derekxec and I fish in Florida larger swimbaits are not always conducive, the vegetation is too high or there is a lot of floating grass, a weedless fluke or a jig probably has caught most of my larger canal bass.  There are times when weeds and grass are no problem, but some of canals are 6' and less, those are the times when a top lure really shines for bigger bass.

 

Snook are caught exactly the same way as bass, just as many 30 pounders are caught on a 1/4 oz bucktail as 6" windcheater.

Wasnt dotty snagged in the face? He thought she picked it up but she didn't? Correct me if I'm wrong. I think swimbaits are acquainting more 10+ now adays. How long ago were these too? I think in the past year there have been multiple 15+ bass caught on swimbaits.

Dotty's was fouled hooked...he admits it and did not enter it as record...classy guy for all the crap he endured behind it!

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"Big baits catch big bass"
Sure seems to make sense .. but much of my experience doesnt exactly support it real well

ie..

Catching several 9"-11" bass on a 6" lure.. how they expected to eat that thing I'll never know.. but who cares.

Most of a 9" is its head and tail fin.. its not a real big body there.

Meanwhile I've caught my PB and several of the largest ones approaching that on a smaller 3.5" bait.

 

There gets to a point though when a bigger bait will simply spook the medium and smaller fish away and you'll be left with whether or not a larger fish wants to eat what you dished if its even around. 

So in essence you may be excluding smaller fish with jumbo lures so of course a bigger bait will only usually catch bigger fish. 

However, the bigger fish will also take a smaller lure too.

 

I think bass eat whatever is put in front of them and the bigger bass will just chomp on large and small depending on various factors like time of day, weather, water temperature, season,.. and its personality and how it feels at the moment.

 

Now I throw big bait.. but its cause I love tossing big bait and watching its huge action either topwater or subsurface.. but when I just need to land something and see a pretty fish large or small, I toss my smaller stuff just to scratch that itch cause I know they'll get it done more often than not and haul in a large, medium, or small.

My PB was caught today on a 1/4 oz topwater that I was pulling 12" bass from an hour earlier.  I was shocked that that monster inhaled that tiny popper.

 

I fish a lot of soft plastics, and have caught more small fish on my magnum lizard than the regular sized one.....

 

I was a believer in bigger baits, bigger fish.....but now, not so much.  

  • Super User

My PB was caught today on a 1/4 oz topwater that I was pulling 12" bass from an hour earlier.  I was shocked that that monster inhaled that tiny popper.

 

I fish a lot of soft plastics, and have caught more small fish on my magnum lizard than the regular sized one.....

 

I was a believer in bigger baits, bigger fish.....but now, not so much.  

 

Congrats on a new PB!

  • Super User

Didn't read the last 2 pages but wanted to say what's missing in this argument in the 1st 2 pages is this:

 

Big baits don't necessarily mean big fish but big baits eliminate many of the of smaller fish.  Which can be key in certain scenarios where a smaller faster bass will gobble the bait up before the bigger bass can get to it.  I've seen it happen while sight fishing, many times.

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